On Aug 26, 2008, at 9:19 PM, Squirrel wrote: > Sorry to butt-in into this thread. Something that maybe someone from > the > community could do is to provide for some platform-combinations a > specific > installation routine (no, I don't know how to do that, but I do know > that > this is possible).
Yes that what I mean by "'the tutorials on the installation page": http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Installation#HTutorials The more we have the merrier. However users must realize it's not going to solve all issues and the other problems is that there's a good chance these will become obsolete when XWiki evolves. This is why I added the warning on that page: "Tutorials external to the xwiki.org site have not been validated for correctness by the XWiki dev team and it's also possible that they are out of date." Thanks -Vincent > So if you have a fresh Debian 4 Etch installation, you would maybe > pick the > installation package (Deb?), which installs xwiki with all the > dependencies. > I'm aware of the fact, that you have several combination > possibilities (and > the update/upgrade procedure). I'm just saying that's maybe > something that > could lower some barriers for the people and get more people to use > XWiki. > > Anybody out there who knows how to create something I outlined and > willing > to pitch in? > > > > On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Vincent Massol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> Hi Jeremy, >> >> On Aug 26, 2008, at 8:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> As I explained it in several messages, I'm trying to use XWiki on a >>> remote server. We're accessing it with a ssh connection (using >>> Putty). >>> >>> First, I tried to install the war manually and it seems that I >>> succeed >>> but we couldn't access to the XWiki page although Tomcat seems to >>> work >>> fine. >>> >>> I couldn't find anybody able to help me on this matter and I needed >>> XWiki to be installed so I choose to install the standalone version. >>> But there's a little problem. XWiki is working just fine but we have >>> to start jetty with a command on our putty terminal and if we shut >>> the >>> window where the commad has been entered, we shut down jetty... so >>> we >>> can't access XWiki anymore if the window isn't open >>> >>> Is there a way to keep Jetty running without having to keep the >>> terminal window open? >> >> Sorry but I need to ask: how is all this related to xwiki? >> XWiki is just a web application, i.e. a WAR. You have to install it >> in >> your favorite Servlet container. >> >> Thus the question you have should be searched for in your favorite >> Servlet container's documentation. XWiki doesn't explain what Java >> is, >> what a database is nor does it explain what a Servlet container is or >> how it works. This is a given and a prerequisite. >> >> That said, we've recognized the need to make it as simple as possible >> to install XWiki and that's why we're also providing a bundled >> standalone zip which has everything already packaged and configured. >> But of course this bundle only provides a single configuration and is >> only for testing. >> >> What you really need to do (as is explained in the documentation) is >> to install it in your own Servlet container and your own database. >> >> >>> That said, I must say that I've been surprised by the difficulty to >>> install XWiki with both method (especially the first one). Even >>> with a >>> good tutorial about how to install xwiki manually on a Debian Etch >>> 4.02 we still had a problem. And with the standalone version, >>> although >>> it works just fine, there still is this little problem with Jetty >>> (But >>> I hope somebody will be able to help with this). It's been difficult >>> to find help all over the web. Don't you think all the problems that >>> we can't get should be put in one place? It would avoid for someone >>> trying to install xwiki to spend hours looking at N sites and N >>> pages >>> to find only one information. >> >> That"s a nice dream but it isn't feasible. We can't explain how an >> operating system works, how Java works, how Servlet container works, >> how a database work, how a mouse works, etc. We have to stop >> somewhere. >> >> Since Java has normalized what a web application is, this is where we >> stop. You can find thousands of online documentation and books on >> installing java webapps (.WAR files). That's really easy to find >> documentation. >> >>> I hope I'll get to fix my problems and >>> I'll be happy to share it afterwards for people facing the same >>> issues. It would be really easier if all the installation problems >>> like this (exception, etc...) were listed on a unique page leading >>> to >>> the right solution rather than having to look to multiples threads, >>> forums, blogs and websites.... >>> >>> But that's just my opinion. >> >> Sure. We'll be happy to add whatever tutorial you write to the list >> we >> have started on the Installation page but we'll never be able to >> cover >> all user cases. The only solution is for users to understand what >> they >> are doing and understand what a servlet container is, how to >> configure >> it, etc. >> >>> I hope someone will be able to help me with Jetty. >> >> Well that's really not hard. Just search google about running jetty >> as >> a service. The solution depen on your OS so I can't really answer. >> For >> windows, see http://docs.codehaus.org/display/JETTY/Win32Wrapper >> For unix just use the standard unix service for your OS (etc/init.d). >> >> Thanks >> -Vincent >> >>> >>> >>> >>> Thank you for your time and the help you'll give me. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> >>> Jeremy Amode. >> _______________________________________________ >> users mailing list >> users@xwiki.org >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list > users@xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users _______________________________________________ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
