Hi Caty,

On 06/04/2010 08:23 PM, Ecaterina Valica wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 20:57, Alex Busenius <alex.busen...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Caty,
>>
>>
>> This version is really cool, just some minor comments:
>>
>> When I mouse over some right icon (FF 3.6), the dropdown menu with
>> allow/deny/etc. is shown, but this menu is very hard to see, because it
>> has almost the same color as the background and the icons are right
>> above the right icons from the line below.
>>
>> The popup with the hint what right it is and why it is inherited is
>> really helpful, but to open it I need to hit the small triangle near to
>> the icon, otherwise only the dropdown menu is shown (but maybe its just
>> because it is not the final version). This might be quite hard for some
>> people.
>>
> 
> Hi Alex,
> 
> yes I know - I reused existing classes from XWiki, didn't made anything
> custom, that's why is acting like this.
> 
> The "desired" interaction will be on hover (icon or arrow) show the
> inheritance tooltip, on click show the menu.
> 
Ok, that will be indeed much better.

> 
>>
>> I'd made the icons larger (at least 24x24) and add more contrast (right
>> now inherited rights look like disabled GUI controls to me), especially
>> to the dropdown menu, view right icon and inherited right arrow from the
>> menu.
>>
>>
> The main disadvantage of this proposal is it's contrast: ColorThemes
> variables (highlightColor, secondaryBackgroundColor) and icons.
> 
> I choose the icons form Silk set, because they are used everywhere in XWiki.
> The rationale was the consistency and look&feel. That's why they all are
> 16x16.
> 
> If we choose this version as the final one, but we are not pleased with
> these icons, we need to find another set (maybe as you suggested with 24x24
> size) or create it from scratch (then we need to think about the icon
> representation).
> 
> The new set should have high contrast between inherited/overridden state.
> 
I see, this complicates things, but I would really prefer larger icons,
lets see what others say...

How about adding a dark border to the dropdown menu or changing its
color to the same one used for "Export" menu etc.? If the icons are not
transparent (in the middle), this would also improve the contrast a lot.


Alex

> Thanks Alex :)
> Caty
> 
> 
>> Alex
>>
>>
>> On 06/04/2010 06:54 PM, Ecaterina Valica wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Take a look at Rights 5
>>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights5Space
>>>
>>> Added:
>>> * information regarding the advanced rights (inherits, overrides)
>>> * icons built together as a whole
>>>
>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/icons.png
>>> * representation of "advanced rights" with the same abstract icon, but
>> with
>>> different color (no text; we can debate this)
>>>
>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/color.png
>>> * inheritance arrow married with +/-
>>>
>>> IMGs (in case of browser problem)
>>> - collapsed:
>>>
>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/rights5Space.png
>>> - expanded:
>>>
>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/rights5SpaceExpanded.png
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:42, Denis Gervalle <d...@softec.lu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Caty,
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 18:09, Ecaterina Valica <vali...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Denis,
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to thank you again for all the help you are giving :P
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is pleasure to participate especially because you provide really
>> good
>>>> proposals.
>>>> I would also like to see others participating, currently the discussion
>> is
>>>> becoming to much bilateral IMO.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please take a look at a proposal for "V3 and my 3)" version with
>> elements
>>>>> from Rights2 :)
>>>>>
>>>>
>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Proposal
>>>>> and in "action"
>>>>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Space
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Really nice job ! I really appreciate.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The prototype is not reflecting the "desired" interaction: both
>> inherited
>>>>> info and rights change appear on hover (right icon and arrow), instead
>> of
>>>>> hover | click.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am not sure what are really your intend. I think that the big tooltips
>>>> describing the rights should be the only tooltips, and should be show on
>>>> hover only after a small timeout (like the yellow one currently).
>> Clicking
>>>> any where on the +/- icon or v would then open the menu.
>>>> Is it what you try ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> yes, on hover show the tooltip, on click show the menu.
>>>
>>>
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