Le 06/07/10 17:58, Eduard Moraru a écrit :
Hi,

On 07/06/2010 05:57 PM, Thomas Höschele wrote:
Thanks for the reply Eduard,

However, both options don't seem to be what is most useful.

A third option would be to have an xwiki installation on the pc running on a
MySQL replication Database, and synchronize the Database every time you get
a connection.


Well, yes. That's pretty much Sergiu's argument as well.

Well this is not really enough, as this locks you in read-only mode.
Concerto was meant to provide offline, but you need some additional code and storage on both the server and the client to run the replication model.
The replication model is what guarantees solutions to conflicts..

Now conflict are very very rare when you look at the use cases, and a much simpler replication model which could fail on conflicts would be probably largely enough for most cases.

Concerto is quite overkill for the simple replication scenario. The power of Concerto is P2P replication just using a relay network which does not store anything. But in this world this scenario does not have a big future.

Ludovic

This sounds kind of like Concerto also sharing the Advantages and the
Disadvanges

However, some mid way would be nice in future (the sooner the better) simple
rendering and maybe search in XEclipse would be great.

Yes, XEclipse does need some love. We'll see.

Thanks,
Eduard
Regards


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Von: users-boun...@xwiki.org [mailto:users-boun...@xwiki.org] Im Auftrag von
Eduard Moraru
Gesendet: Dienstag, 6. Juli 2010 16:46
An: users@xwiki.org
Betreff: Re: [xwiki-users] state of xwiki concerto

Hi,

On 07/06/2010 04:07 PM, Thomas Hoeschele wrote:

Just jumping in here, as I have to ask this: is there any Possilibity to

Use XWiki Offline apart from Concerto? I consider this a crucial feature for
a lot of enterprise where employees have to work outside or have no internet
in meetings.

Btw, I thing something like XEclipse with Page preview would suffice.

thank !


Well, XEclipse was originally part of the XWiki Concerto research
project as well. AFAIK, there is currently no XWiki Offline standalone
project.

So there are basically 2 options for offline work with xwiki: Concerto
and XEclipse.

- Concerto involves having a local (in offline work context) xwiki
installation that replicates completely or partially a remote xwiki.
     - Advantage: full featured XWiki experience.
     - Dissadvantage: big footprint, possibly instable due to current status.
- XEclipse involves downloading a set of pages (or entire spaces) and
working in an Eclipse environment.
     - Advantage: light, syntax highlighting, suggestions, etc.
     - Disadvantage: only wiki syntax mode is supported and partial
rendering (since you don't have the wiki's entire contents with you).

Both options synchronize with remote XWiki when internet is available.

Hope this helps.

Thanks,
Eduard

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Datum: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 09:06:41 +0100
Von: Ponder Muse<ponder.m...@googlemail.com>
An: XWiki Users<users@xwiki.org>
Betreff: Re: [xwiki-users] state of xwiki concerto



Hi Eduard,




I have fixed the build issues and now Concerto should be building
without problems.

Please make sure to follow the steps described at
http://concerto.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Tutorial



Thanks for your efforts in making Concerto available again.




On the other hand, if you can wait a couple of hours, I am sure I will
find a place to host the 80mb jar installer build of Concerto that I
remade and fix the link available at
http://concerto.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/DownloadAndInstall
Please check the page for updates in about 12 hours.



I will give the built installer a go once its available at  the above
link.

Thank you for your interest in Concerto and I would greatly appreciate


your feedback on it, even though the development on this project is
currently suspended.



Sure thing, I'll do that.

P.S.: Please keep in mind that, as Sergiu stated, even though the


project ended successfully, the prototype is not ready for production. I
checked it, and it's running decently with the bundled XWiki Enterprise
1.8.1, but you should not use it for sensitive information.



No worries with it being just a prototype as we will trial it in a
controlled lab environment only.

Thanks again for your efforts - much appreciated!

Regards,
PM.
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