Hi Jason,
On 10 Dec 2014 at 05:11:40, Jason Clemons ([email protected](mailto:[email protected])) wrote: > I have say, upgrading makes me very nervous too.. Have you ever tried using the Distribution Wizard? > so, I'd definitely vote for anything that changes or enhances that process. > So far, I'm terrified to even try an upgrade (currently on 5.4) since my wiki > is production and we've done a fair bit of customized solutions to unique > problems (likely not in a "supported" way maybe) . Well, first nobody should ever upgrade a wiki in production directly! You should make backups and do the upgrade on a staging server and then only move the instance to production. > My fear is that some piece of code or settings will get overwritten which > will break stuff and I won't know where to look to fix them. 😃 > > A wizard would be awesome to take the guess work out of it. err… The Distribution Wizard …. is a... wizard ;) You should give it a try! We do have some ideas in jira to make it even better but it’s already quite good in its current state. > As is, I've read some of the tutorials out there regarding upgrades several > times but I'm not really able to determine the prescribed steps using those. What tutorial? Could you give me the links? > I think at the end of the day I'm going to end up exporting my solutions as > XAR's and then try importing them into an upgraded Xwiki environment too, > since it seems easier to me. The DW is generally a better solution to upgrades. Thanks -Vincent > > On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Jeremie BOUSQUET wrote: > > > > Le 9 déc. 2014 22:37, "Thomas Mortagne" a écrit > > : > >> > >> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Guillaume Lerouge > > wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:23 PM, Thomas Mortagne < > > [email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Harald Ommang > >> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> Hi! > >>>>> > >>>>> In one way, I very much appreciate the relatively high frequency of > >>>> updates done by the XWIKI crew. You are doing a great job, making sure > > that > >>>> XWIKI is alive and kicking and always improving. > >>>>> > >>>>> The downside to this, is all the work needed to be done when > > upgrading. > >>>> So, I don't do that very often. The basic part of > > installation/migration > >>>> works very well, but when it comes to content, the upgrade procedure is > >>>> messy, as I see it. It is a hassle to have to pick and choose between > >>>> various parts when importing and exported XAR. > >>>>> > >>>>> I would very much suggest planning for a future where the parts that > > are > >>>> XWIKI software are clearly separated from the parts where customers > >>>> typically do modifications. Especially items like users and groups. It > >>>> should be possible to have a more separated export/import so that you > > GET > >>>> new versions of e.g. the admin pages, while still KEEPING your setup of > >>>> users, groups, etc., without having to click on a million of > > checkboxes in > >>>> the import. > >>>> > >>>> I don't really understand this comment, doing export/import is really > >>>> not the standard way of doing an upgrade. In typical upgrade you > >>>> backup everything if you want to be safe (or better you have automated > >>>> backups and you don't really need to do it when you upgrade), upgrade > >>>> the WAR part (if you use the Debian package then it's just about doing > >>>> apt-get upgrade or install with a specific version), restart, XWiki > >>>> upgrade the database shema automatically if needed and then you get > >>>> the Distribution Wizard which download and upgrade the wiki pages with > >>>> 3 ways merge. Most of the time you don't have anything to do. > >>> > >>> Sure, but to benefit from all those nice Distribution Wizard features, > >>> Harald would first need to... upgrade to the latest version ;-) > >> > >> Distribution Wizard has been introduced in 4.2 so not really the > >> latest version. And even before that export/import everything never > >> really been standard upgrade process either. > > > > Sure, but you usually did reverse way : import new xwiki ui xar (and > > remember to uncheck standard pages customized, or have them overwritten). > > And yes, it was sometimes a hassle, and compared to that distribution > > wizard is really really great :) > > > >> > >>> > >>> Guillaume _______________________________________________ users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
