2014-12-10 15:34 GMT+01:00 Jeremie BOUSQUET <[email protected]>:
> > > 2014-12-10 15:26 GMT+01:00 Marius Dumitru Florea < > [email protected]>: > >> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Jeremie BOUSQUET >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > Something I just met - as it's an "improvement" proposal I thought I >> could >> > propose it here, but I may just create a jira if you think it's >> interesting: >> > Would be great if there could be an option, in Attachments tab at pages >> > bottom, to display attachments as a grid of thumbnails, instead of just >> a >> > list. >> > The best would be to by default reach current Attachments view, when >> > clicking on Attachments tab (because it shows fastly), then have a >> little >> > flag, button, or whatever, to choose a "thumbnail" view. >> > This "thumbnail" view, could be the exact same kind of view as proposed >> by >> > Attachments Selector Macro [1]. >> > BTW it could be nice that this {{attachmentSelector/}} could be used as >> (or >> > could rely on another extension that) merely displays attachments, >> without >> > concept of saving the attachment name in a property in an XObject ... >> > >> >> > Use-case sample: when you import a .doc document, all images are set as >> > attachments with automatic naming. Without thumbnail, it's quite hard >> then >> > to retrieve a specific attachment without opening all of them one by >> one. >> >> There is >> http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/AttachmentGalleryMacro >> > > Yes, but it's still a "one by one" browser, not a grid of thumbnails, and > it's not built-in the Attachment tab by default ... > If it existed it could even be added to the File Manager Application [2], > currently proposing a Tree and a Live Table view, it could also offer a > Grid view with thumbnails why not ... > > [2] - > http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/File+Manager+Application > Generally speaking if you want, I could formulate as, "More widgets and views, for displaying or managing standard xwiki features / objects". > > >> . >> >> > >> > BR, >> > Jeremie >> > >> > [1] - >> > >> http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Attachment+Selector+Macro >> > >> > >> > 2014-12-10 9:46 GMT+01:00 [email protected] <[email protected]>: >> > >> >> Hi Jason, >> >> >> >> >> >> On 10 Dec 2014 at 05:11:40, Jason Clemons ([email protected] >> (mailto: >> >> [email protected])) wrote: >> >> >> >> > I have say, upgrading makes me very nervous too.. >> >> >> >> Have you ever tried using the Distribution Wizard? >> >> >> >> > so, I'd definitely vote for anything that changes or enhances that >> >> process. So far, I'm terrified to even try an upgrade (currently on >> 5.4) >> >> since my wiki is production and we've done a fair bit of customized >> >> solutions to unique problems (likely not in a "supported" way maybe) . >> >> >> >> Well, first nobody should ever upgrade a wiki in production directly! >> You >> >> should make backups and do the upgrade on a staging server and then >> only >> >> move the instance to production. >> >> >> >> > My fear is that some piece of code or settings will get overwritten >> >> which will break stuff and I won't know where to look to fix them. 😃 >> >> > >> >> > A wizard would be awesome to take the guess work out of it. >> >> >> >> err… The Distribution Wizard …. is a... wizard ;) >> >> >> >> You should give it a try! We do have some ideas in jira to make it even >> >> better but it’s already quite good in its current state. >> >> >> >> > As is, I've read some of the tutorials out there regarding upgrades >> >> several times but I'm not really able to determine the prescribed steps >> >> using those. >> >> >> >> What tutorial? Could you give me the links? >> >> >> >> > I think at the end of the day I'm going to end up exporting my >> solutions >> >> as XAR's and then try importing them into an upgraded Xwiki environment >> >> too, since it seems easier to me. >> >> >> >> The DW is generally a better solution to upgrades. >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> -Vincent >> >> >> >> > > On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Jeremie BOUSQUET wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > > Le 9 déc. 2014 22:37, "Thomas Mortagne" a écrit >> >> > > : >> >> > >> >> >> > >> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Guillaume Lerouge >> >> > > wrote: >> >> > >>> Hi, >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:23 PM, Thomas Mortagne < >> >> > > [email protected]> >> >> > >>> wrote: >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Harald Ommang > >> >> >> > >>>> wrote: >> >> > >>>>> Hi! >> >> > >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> In one way, I very much appreciate the relatively high >> frequency of >> >> > >>>> updates done by the XWIKI crew. You are doing a great job, >> making >> >> sure >> >> > > that >> >> > >>>> XWIKI is alive and kicking and always improving. >> >> > >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> The downside to this, is all the work needed to be done when >> >> > > upgrading. >> >> > >>>> So, I don't do that very often. The basic part of >> >> > > installation/migration >> >> > >>>> works very well, but when it comes to content, the upgrade >> >> procedure is >> >> > >>>> messy, as I see it. It is a hassle to have to pick and choose >> >> between >> >> > >>>> various parts when importing and exported XAR. >> >> > >>>>> >> >> > >>>>> I would very much suggest planning for a future where the parts >> >> that >> >> > > are >> >> > >>>> XWIKI software are clearly separated from the parts where >> customers >> >> > >>>> typically do modifications. Especially items like users and >> groups. >> >> It >> >> > >>>> should be possible to have a more separated export/import so >> that >> >> you >> >> > > GET >> >> > >>>> new versions of e.g. the admin pages, while still KEEPING your >> >> setup of >> >> > >>>> users, groups, etc., without having to click on a million of >> >> > > checkboxes in >> >> > >>>> the import. >> >> > >>>> >> >> > >>>> I don't really understand this comment, doing export/import is >> >> really >> >> > >>>> not the standard way of doing an upgrade. In typical upgrade you >> >> > >>>> backup everything if you want to be safe (or better you have >> >> automated >> >> > >>>> backups and you don't really need to do it when you upgrade), >> >> upgrade >> >> > >>>> the WAR part (if you use the Debian package then it's just about >> >> doing >> >> > >>>> apt-get upgrade or install with a specific version), restart, >> XWiki >> >> > >>>> upgrade the database shema automatically if needed and then you >> get >> >> > >>>> the Distribution Wizard which download and upgrade the wiki >> pages >> >> with >> >> > >>>> 3 ways merge. Most of the time you don't have anything to do. >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> Sure, but to benefit from all those nice Distribution Wizard >> >> features, >> >> > >>> Harald would first need to... upgrade to the latest version ;-) >> >> > >> >> >> > >> Distribution Wizard has been introduced in 4.2 so not really the >> >> > >> latest version. And even before that export/import everything >> never >> >> > >> really been standard upgrade process either. >> >> > > >> >> > > Sure, but you usually did reverse way : import new xwiki ui xar >> (and >> >> > > remember to uncheck standard pages customized, or have them >> >> overwritten). >> >> > > And yes, it was sometimes a hassle, and compared to that >> distribution >> >> > > wizard is really really great :) >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> Guillaume >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> users mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > users mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> _______________________________________________ >> users mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> > > _______________________________________________ users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
