Hi, So after 2 weeks of available time to express opinions I have some conclusions: we are going to implement P2. I've created http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-14265 We are going to make sure to have a span around the labels so that they can be easily hidden in custom skins.
We had 42 votes around the subject held on 4 channels, for more details see http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/IdeaLabeledActions#HVoting P2 had 65% of the votes, while P4 35%. Thanks everyone for the votes Caty On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 12:36 PM, Mahomed Hussein <maho...@custodiandc.com> wrote: > > I’d go as far as saying that the labels could actually be distracting by > taking more visual > > space and catching your eyes when you look at the UI as a whole and want > to focus on the > > content. > > I totally agree with this about the UI and wasted space and distractions. > > > Now this could be minor and the advantages for the newcomers could be > more important than the > > small downside for returning users. > > Well newcomers just need to learn about the functions of the buttons by > using them once or twice. Whereas the rest of us have to deal with the > wasted space and distraction forever more :) Also, can't the concern about > newcomers (and the introduction to the purpose of the buttons) be addressed > with the tour application that now runs for new users? > > Honestly I don't think everyone is going to agree on this. Whatever the > XWiki team chooses, will probably be fine. People will complain for a bit > and just move on with life. So I think the team should just take the result > from the poll and implement that as I think the topic could continue > indefinitely :-) > > > Kind regards, > > > > > Mahomed Hussein > Custodian Data Centre > Email: maho...@custodiandc.com > http://www.CustodianDC.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: users [mailto:users-boun...@xwiki.org] On Behalf Of Vincent Massol > Sent: 28 April 2017 09:02 > To: XWiki Users <email@example.com> > Subject: Re: [xwiki-users] [Proposal][UX] Feedback for Explicit Content > Actions > > > > On 28 Apr 2017, at 09:57, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <vali...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Clément Aubin > > <clement.au...@xwiki.com> > > wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> On 04/27/2017 11:58 AM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote: > >>> Some summary until now: > >>> P2: Craig, Olivier > >>> P4: Mahomed, Steffen, Jesse, Miroslav > >> > >> As a «fresh» user, I would prefer P2, mostly because I don’t think > >> that every newcomer will have the intuition to look at the top-right > >> corner of the page for its options. Adding labels allows for those > >> three icons to be more visible. > >> > >> > > From an usability perspective, having labels is unbeatable both for > > new users and advanced users. > > I agree for new users but not for advanced. Users who’ve used those button > just once know about them and don’t need the labels. I’d go as far as > saying that the labels could actually be distracting by taking more visual > space and catching your eyes when you look at the UI as a whole and want to > focus on the content. > > Now this could be minor and the advantages for the newcomers could be more > important than the small downside for returning users. > > Thanks > -Vincent > > > We could also display the icons labels only if the user has the > > «simple» > >> user profile and remove them as soon as he becomes more advanced. > >> > > > > Not sure about making this configurable. It's a simple decision, we > > need to agree on a default. With this approach we make everything in > > XWiki configurable. > > > > The advantage of reaching to newcomers is that in time they will also > > become advanced users. We want to encourage user transformation. Also > > I don't think users that start with a more explicit interface will > > like the change after, since they will become accustomed to it. > > > > Thanks, > > Caty > > > > > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> -- > >> Clément Aubin > >> Web Developer Intern @XWiki SAS > >> clement.au...@xwiki.com > >> More about us at http://www.xwiki.com > >