2002-04-04

You can still make it available to those who pay dues.  They can download it
in doc or pdf  format via a password.  A password available only to those
that are paid members.  Or you can set it up to be emailed to dues paying
members.  This way everybody gets it in a timely manner and there is no
postage charges to the USMA.  Plus, if the newsletter can be done entirely
electronically, there would be no printing charges.  That would be a cost
savings and maybe a savings in officers time spent on handling the
newsletters.  No?

John


----- Original Message -----
From: "Hillger, Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, 2002-04-04 17:28
Subject: [USMA:19230] RE: Back to Metric?



Ezra and others:

For those of you who don't receive Metric Today, the cover story for the
last issue was about labeling.  It would be nice if we could do an
electronic newsletter and make it available to all, but then who would
pay dues?  You are missing out if you don't get the newsletter.  I'm not
begging for your dues, that's just the fact.  I started this listserver
and did not promise that it would have the latest metric information.
Unfortunately I don't have enough time to read all the list messages,
let alone reply to them, nor do the other USMA officers who already work
hard and long for this cause.  Most volunteer a large fraction of their
time to the cause, and they do a lot of good.  I don't think it would do
that much good to debate the issues on the listserver.  We can talk
without end about some of these issues, but it's what's done for the
cause that is important.  I have a personal gripe with people who think
they are promoting the cause by debating the minutia of SI.  I would
much rather see stories about what they have actually done to convince
or convert anyone or anything.

Although USMA is on top of the issues you bring up, we don't think it's
prudent to state all the details in open documentation.  Government
works slowly and strangely and USMA has had many success stories, if not
pro-metric, then at least at keeping at bay the anti-metric forces,
although not completely as we all know.  We are working against an
apathetic and conservative public.  I can't even convince my scientific
colleagues that metric for the country as a whole is worthwhile.  They
are just not willing to do anything for the cause.  I expect the same is
true for many of you as well.  Regardless, do what you can.  There is no
paid staff at USMA, only volunteers and I think their time is well spent
and documented in the newsletter.

I don't plan to debate this issue, just stating my opinion.

Don Hillger
USMA list owner

-----Original Message-----
From: Ezra Steinberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, 2002 April 04 11:03
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:19226] Back to Metric?


Sure, Don, getting back to metric would be nice.

So, here goes ...

Is anybody (including -- and maybe especially -- the USMA leadership)
pushing a legislative agenda to promote metric? It seems that the two
agenda items currently in the forefront are amending the FPLA and
getting the non-automatic states to adopt the latest NPLR. I've seen
nothing I can remember giving any concrete information about either of
these.

Maybe we see this list go adrift into other topics sometimes because
we're not hearing from the official leadership regarding updates and
discussion of a focused agenda and progress and obstacles on the road to
meeting that agenda. (I'd love to get regular updates on this list from
*them* on what they're doing, for example.)

Takes more than moralistic admonitions to fight entropy in my experience
...

Regards,
Ezra

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