I have to second that.  I have best of intentions when I'm reading the list
in the afternoon, but by the time I get home at 21.00 it's easy to put off
chasing stamps and envelopes until another day.  Online payment would be
simple, quick, and effective.

Nat

> Another idea I would like to put forward. Make joining or paying dues for
> the USMA possible by electronic payment using credit cards on the
> USMA site,
> like internet shops do. Cheques are difficult. Many countries do not use
> them, my country among them; meaning I cannot pay with cheques. Recently I
> got myself a VISA credit card.
> Paying online with a credit card on the USMA site would really be
> a boon. I
> would join USMA at once.
>
> Han
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "kilopascal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, 2002-04-05 01:33
> Subject: [USMA:19234] RE: Back to Metric?
>
>
> > 2002-04-04
> >
> > You can still make it available to those who pay dues.  They
> can download
> it
> > in doc or pdf  format via a password.  A password available
> only to those
> > that are paid members.  Or you can set it up to be emailed to
> dues paying
> > members.  This way everybody gets it in a timely manner and there is no
> > postage charges to the USMA.  Plus, if the newsletter can be
> done entirely
> > electronically, there would be no printing charges.  That would
> be a cost
> > savings and maybe a savings in officers time spent on handling the
> > newsletters.  No?
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Hillger, Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, 2002-04-04 17:28
> > Subject: [USMA:19230] RE: Back to Metric?
> >
> >
> >
> > Ezra and others:
> >
> > For those of you who don't receive Metric Today, the cover story for the
> > last issue was about labeling.  It would be nice if we could do an
> > electronic newsletter and make it available to all, but then who would
> > pay dues?  You are missing out if you don't get the newsletter.  I'm not
> > begging for your dues, that's just the fact.  I started this listserver
> > and did not promise that it would have the latest metric information.
> > Unfortunately I don't have enough time to read all the list messages,
> > let alone reply to them, nor do the other USMA officers who already work
> > hard and long for this cause.  Most volunteer a large fraction of their
> > time to the cause, and they do a lot of good.  I don't think it would do
> > that much good to debate the issues on the listserver.  We can talk
> > without end about some of these issues, but it's what's done for the
> > cause that is important.  I have a personal gripe with people who think
> > they are promoting the cause by debating the minutia of SI.  I would
> > much rather see stories about what they have actually done to convince
> > or convert anyone or anything.
> >
> > Although USMA is on top of the issues you bring up, we don't think it's
> > prudent to state all the details in open documentation.  Government
> > works slowly and strangely and USMA has had many success stories, if not
> > pro-metric, then at least at keeping at bay the anti-metric forces,
> > although not completely as we all know.  We are working against an
> > apathetic and conservative public.  I can't even convince my scientific
> > colleagues that metric for the country as a whole is worthwhile.  They
> > are just not willing to do anything for the cause.  I expect the same is
> > true for many of you as well.  Regardless, do what you can.  There is no
> > paid staff at USMA, only volunteers and I think their time is well spent
> > and documented in the newsletter.
> >
> > I don't plan to debate this issue, just stating my opinion.
> >
> > Don Hillger
> > USMA list owner
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ezra Steinberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, 2002 April 04 11:03
> > To: U.S. Metric Association
> > Subject: [USMA:19226] Back to Metric?
> >
> >
> > Sure, Don, getting back to metric would be nice.
> >
> > So, here goes ...
> >
> > Is anybody (including -- and maybe especially -- the USMA leadership)
> > pushing a legislative agenda to promote metric? It seems that the two
> > agenda items currently in the forefront are amending the FPLA and
> > getting the non-automatic states to adopt the latest NPLR. I've seen
> > nothing I can remember giving any concrete information about either of
> > these.
> >
> > Maybe we see this list go adrift into other topics sometimes because
> > we're not hearing from the official leadership regarding updates and
> > discussion of a focused agenda and progress and obstacles on the road to
> > meeting that agenda. (I'd love to get regular updates on this list from
> > *them* on what they're doing, for example.)
> >
> > Takes more than moralistic admonitions to fight entropy in my experience
> > ...
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ezra
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

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