Pat:

That's great.  Now they need to display one more digit to get down to the
nearest meter like GPS does.

If you missed my Toyota Prius display button message, the button shows:

     km/h
    MPH

Stan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pat Naughtin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 6:12 PM
Subject: [USMA:28948] RE: Pro metric lobby?


Dear Stan,

A farmer friend had a utility (pick-up?) with a odometer that could be set
to a precision of 0.01 kilometres. It was a Ford Falcon.

Knowing that each distance interval represented 10 metres, my friend uses
his utility to do rough surveys of his fields and his crops, and he has also
used it to throw posts and wire off the back of his 'ute' at suitable
intervals for building a post and wire fence.

Cheers,

Pat Naughtin LCAMS
Geelong, Australia

Pat Naughtin is the editor of the free online newsletter, 'Metrication
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on 26/2/04 5:41 PM, G. Stanley Doore at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Right on Bill!
>
> Your comment about marketing also applies to the Toyota Prius.  The Prius
> has a km/hr-mph button which does NOT convert and display ALL parameters
in
> metric when km/hr button is pressed.  It only converts speed.  For example
> it does NOT convert and display distances etc in metric.  That's puzzling
> coming from Japan.
>
> My American made DeVille converts everything from metric to English and
vice
> versa.  I use metric when measuring short distances since 0.1 km = 100 m.
> That's very handy since 0.1 km is the length of a football field plus one
> end zone.
>
> Perhaps the automotive and vehicular industries also should display to the
> nearest 0.01 km or 0.001 km for short distance purposes to be compatible
> with GPS and their installed navigation systems.
>
> Stan Doore
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Potts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 12:15 AM
> Subject: [USMA:28931] RE: Pro metric lobby?
>
>
>> Just one comment on what I've said below.
>>
>> Although the automotive industry is 100% metric in the design and
>> manufacture of cars, their sales and marketing departments pander to the
>> ignorance of the American public and the distributor/dealer networks by
>> showing key dimensions in Fred Flintstone units.
>>
>> Bill Potts, CMS
>> Roseville, CA
>> http://metric1.org [SI Navigator]
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Bill Potts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 21:12
>>> To: U.S. Metric Association
>>> Subject: RE: [USMA:28927] Pro metric lobby?
>>>
>>>
>>> The purpose of the list is to discuss issues related to SI. Our
>>> discussions on the list often provide valuable ideas to the USMA
>>>
>>> Many of us on this list are members of USMA. With our dues, we
>>> support the USMA's efforts, particularly in Washington, in the
>>> promotion and facilitation of metrication (including discussions
>>> with members of Congress). The USMA works with standards bodies,
>>> too, and with NIST (National Institute of Standards and Technology).
>>>
>>> I think we can consider a number of industries to be allies in the
>>> effort to accelerate metrication. The liquor and wine industries
>>> have been 100% SI for years, as has the automotive industry. The
>>> major soft drink manufacturers use hard metric sizes for their
>>> larger containers. The pharmaceutical industry is 100% metric,
>>> although not 100% SI (as they use their own abbreviations in some
>>> cases [e.g., mc for �], rather than the approved SI prefixes).
>>> (Note: I consider mc to only be an abbreviation for micro; � is
>>> the SI prefix that means micro.)
>>>
>>> Some large manufacturers, especially Procter and Gamble, are very
>>> progressive in their adoption of SI for their products. Almost all
>>> of P&G's packaging is in round SI values. If it were not for a few
>>> hold-out states, P&G would probably take full advantage of FPLA,
>>> which permits metric-only labeling.
>>>
>>> Several of us on this list serve on standards committees, such as
>>> IEEE SCC 14 and IEEE/ASTM SI 10-2007. If you're curious about
>>> these, do a Google search.
>>>
>>> For my own part, I've had a web site for about five years,
>>> providing easy navigation to a large number of other web sites for
>>> those interested in metrication. The site includes a political
>>> action page, with links to all senators and congress critters, all
>>> state legislatures, and newspaper web sites by state, nationally,
>>> and worldwide.
>>>
>>> Jim Frysinger, Marcus Berger, and others also have SI web sites.
>>>
>>> Bill Potts, CMS
>>> Roseville, CA
>>> http://metric1.org [SI Navigator]
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Behalf Of J. Ward
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 19:45
>>>> To: U.S. Metric Association
>>>> Subject: [USMA:28927] Pro metric lobby?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I signed up for the USMA list expecting that the main purpose of the
> list
>>>> would be to organize some sort of pro-metric campaign.  While I am very
>>>> grateful for all the good work the USMA does and appreciate all
>>> the things
>>>> I've learned reading postings to this list, the lack of organized
>>>> political
>>>> mobilization is still a bit of a disappointment.
>>>>
>>>> If we could somehow redirect the fervor for a decimal clock into a
>>>> lobby for
>>>> organized US SI conversion, think of the wonders we could accomplish!
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday 25 February 2004 09:59, Gavin Young wrote:
>>>>> Maybe the USMA should create form letters on their website (like
>>>> the action
>>>>> alerts of environmental websites) that will facilitate mass
>>>> mailings by all
>>>>> USMA members and anyone else interested in SI metric. Letters
>>>> addressed to
>>>>> various organizations can be posted.
>>>>
>>
>

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