One has to wonder what kind of company wants to see their labels cluttered with all of that FL FL.OZ-OZ.LIQ garble. Even if the 50 mL was removed, the contents declaration is still a garbled clutter. At least with metric, the symbols are universal and the unit need only be represented once.
Funny how being anti-metric, they do fill their bottles to an exact 50 mL and not something more rounded in ounces. I highly doubt the use of 1.7 ounces is understood by users of FFU. The average FFU user would not be able to comprehend 1.7 ounces any better then 50 mL. So where is the advantage of using FFU in situations like this? Euric ----- Original Message ----- From: "Han Maenen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, 2004-03-28 12:03 Subject: [USMA:29331] TABD and neo-cons. Was: Re: Re: Canadian metric muddle evident > Euric > > The TABD might be part of the neo-con family indeed. They campaigned for the > cancellation of the Metric Directive, but as this is 'a bridge too far' they > settle for 10 year delays for now. Of course, they claim, this is not an > anti-metric campaign, it is just to simplify trade between the US and the > EU. Yes, sure! > The campaign against metric only labelling in the EU was spearheaded within > the TABD by the US cosmetics company Estee Lauder. > They label their stuff in this outrageous way: > 1.7 FL FL.OZ-OZ.LIQ-50 ml > > Outrageous because of this OZ.LIQ, which is the French translation once > liquide of US fl.oz. Not anti-metric, with this 'French' unit? Blessed those > who believe! > > When the new deadline of 2010 approaches, we must look out. They must not be > allowed to succeed in getting yet another delay. > > Of course, the BWMA and their friends are very pleased with the campaign of > the TABD. > > Han > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chimpsarecute" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "USMA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, 2004-03-28 18:05 > Subject: [USMA:29326] Re: Canadian metric muddle evident > > > > I just wonder where the TABD fits into all of this. Are they a part of > the > > neo-con family? If their agenda is part of the neo-con agenda, then we > can > > assume metrication is anathema to the neo-con agenda. They may tolerate > > metrication to the point it doesn't try to interfere with American > > globalisation efforts or American hegemony. > > > > I'm sure the leaders of American globalisation do not have a working, > > comfortable knowledge of metric, and thus would be opposed to metrication. > > At least as far as the metrication of the US is concerned. I could feel > > that metrication could be a non-issue with these groups, but with the TABD > > putting up such a fight 5 years ago makes one feel the opposite is true. > > > > Not to say the neo-cons would want to reconvert the world to FFU, but > would > > oppose any efforts by metricationists to alter the status quo. > > > > Euric > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Sunday, 2004-03-28 10:21 > > Subject: Re: [USMA:29315] Re: Canadian metric muddle evident > > > > > > > Euric, > > > > > > I think that you are right. I know about these neo-cons allright, things > > like > > > PNAC and other nasty schemes. BTW, I am a dues paying member of USMA! > > > Even in the EU we may not be safe because of the spy system ECHELON! > > > Thanks for your answer, > > > > > > Han > > > > > > > > > Citeren Chimpsarecute <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > Han, > > > > > > > > I don't think economic status is the reason for achievement or lack of > > it. > > > > It has more to do with arrogance and attitude. The so-called poor > > nations > > > > were colonies of the so-called rich nations. Metrication of former > > > > colonies > > > > was seen as an attitude of independence. The colonizing countries > were > > > > empires and their arrogance dictates that their ways are the best and > > > > everyone must follow them. > > > > > > > > Many in the UK still think of them selves as being part of the empire > > and > > > > as > > > > rulers. They hate the EU and metric because it means that others are > > > > telling them what to do instead of the other way around. Metrication > is > > a > > > > symbol that their ways are no longer the best and no longer accepted. > > They > > > > are being forced to adopt the ways of former enemies and rivals. This > > is > > > > something they can not bear. > > > > > > > > The US is now where the UK was just prior to WWII. The neo-con > masters > > are > > > > trying to establish a new world order based on US domination. The > Iraq > > war > > > > was meant to secure gulf state's oil under the dollar hegemony. The > > > > creation of the euro and the strong stability of the euro has > threatened > > > > the > > > > dollar hegemony and has forced the neo-cons to accelerate their > > > > globalisation efforts. By globalisation, I'm not speaking of world > > trade, > > > > but neo-con control of the of the world and its economy. > > > > > > > > The neo-cons in an effort to secure vital assets under their control > are > > > > putting into practice the means to limit democracy and to turn the US > > (and > > > > the world) into a police state under their control. If their agenda > is > > > > pro-metric, then shortly after they assume full power, they will under > > > > force > > > > of severe punishment or death, metricate the US. If they are > > anti-metric, > > > > or neutral, then no enforced metrication will take place. > > > > > > > > Can you imagine being sent to a concentration camp for being a > supporter > > of > > > > metric or even an opponent? It can happen and it will. See: > > > > > > > > http://www.angelfire.com/music2/fullcircle/con1.html > > > > > > > > http://www.freedomfiles.org/war/fema.htm > > > > > > > > Americans who have been so conditioned to believe that they live if > the > > > > land > > > > of the free and home of the brave, and that their democracy is written > > in > > > > stone, will be the easiest people to enslave. While they are being > lead > > by > > > > the tens of thousands into the camps, they will be shaking their heads > > in > > > > disbelief, because something this sinister just can not happen in the > > USA. > > > > > > > > How will they achieve this? By labelling all crimes as terrorism, and > > > > charging every criminal (in their eyes) as terrorists. If the > neo-cons > > are > > > > in fact anti-metric, we could right now be on their list as a > terrorist > > > > group and the USMA may be labelled a terrorist organisation. At least > > you > > > > Han, living in the EU would be immune from their control for a short > > time. > > > > > > > > Euric > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Han Maenen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Saturday, 2004-03-27 06:47 > > > > Subject: [USMA:29313] Re: Canadian metric muddle evident > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is exactly the reason why I do not believe in 'democracy' in > such > > > > > cases. It leads to muddle and endless confusion for decades. I hope > > that > > > > it > > > > > will work in the USA, where many people are suspicious of what the > > > > > government does. It evidently does not work in Canada and Britain, > and > > it > > > > > did not work in many nations that went metric in the past. > > > > > Many nations tried the voluntary approach, but as soon as > metrication > > > > > reached the retail trades, trouble started and this is what happened > > in > > > > > Britain and Canada. In France it almost destroyed the metric system. > > Only > > > > > strict laws that forced trade (not private citizens!) to use metric > > ended > > > > > the muddle. > > > > > In Canada some conservative politicians thought of the ballot box > and > > > > > climbed the anti-metric bandwagon, with this madness as a result. > > > > > I am glad that we have not adopted the euro the 'democratic' way. We > > > > would > > > > > have double pricing and double currencies for decades. On all other > > > > issues > > > > > we are democracies. > > > > > Years ago I read a Letter to the Editor in the Guardian, where a > > British > > > > > person reported that the street markets in Kenya went metric almost > > > > > overnight with no difficulties whatsoever, no consumer and traders > > > > > resistance. This also seems to have been the case in other Third > World > > > > > countries. Why can these poor nations achieve what some rich nations > > > > cannot? > > > > > > > > > > Han > > > > > > > <snip> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
