One more turn each and I think we should call it quits after that.

I am not anti-metric.  But I am not anti-imperial either.

If that means what I think it means then we're back to square one.


This is what disturbs me. That people can be "against" or "anti" the word inch, mile etc. So much so as to call it names ("FFU"), deny it exists, call for its "destruction" or "irradication", make out that it harms children or simply claim that a social underclass uses it. That sentiment causes much harm to proper metric advocates who'd like to see metric prompoted in a more positive way. You'll be glad to here that ex-USMA list-serv user "euric" (amongst other names) has now been banned from the BWMA forums. Despite laughing at his claims I always thought that he was the best asset to any pro-imperial group or organisation!

I try all the time to be positive about metric. I try to promote it on its merits without necessarily knocking imperial. But it just falls on deaf ears with some people. I guess the problem is I (perhaps like Euric) spend too much time debating with those who actively oppose it. That can distort things and it does.

People who (like BWMA) stand up for imperial ironically give it a bad name because they force a passionate debate by being so irrational about it. In the end those who try to promote metric end up despising imperial because of it. They don't start out that way though.

I was going to answer all your other points but I'm not going to bother. I'd be just wasting my time.

Phil Hall

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