You are correct.  It's a marketing ploy

Think in terms of a half-liter cup to replace the 16 oz. or quarter-liter cup 
to replace the 8 oz. cup.  Sub-liter-size cups would give consumers a little 
bit more.  It also would educate consumers of the relationship between liter 
and sub-liter amounts.   Use of oz. containers do not show a relationship to 
the quart.

That's essentially what 7-UP did to launch the first  2-liter soft drink 
container.

The slogan "A Liter Bit More" was a take-off on "A Little Bit More" for the 
same price to buyers of 7-UP.

It worked and started the movement to metric-size soft-drink containers 
including  metric-size  wine containers we have today.  7-UP designed  the 2 L 
container so it cost the company less to package and transport the product.  It 
helped its bottom line.

Stan Doore


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Martin Vlietstra 
  To: U.S. Metric Association 
  Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 3:53 AM
  Subject: [USMA:40032] Re: Finishing metrication in Australia


  Phil and Stan (on a separate thread) seem to have missed another point.  We 
are dealing with a company that is applying US marketing standards to a country 
that is not part of the US.  In spite of the apparent similarities between the 
US and Australia (I have not visited either, but I have met a number of people 
form both), they are separate countries, each with their own laws. 

   


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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Chernack
  Sent: 12 January 2008 19:36
  To: U.S. Metric Association
  Subject: [USMA:40030] Re: Finishing metrication in Australia

   

  I think we are confusing several issues here.  The problem with Subway is not 
a labeling issue rather a marketing one.  It seems that Pat's main point of 
contention is that after years of Australians getting used to seeing metric 
measures in common day places, Subway comes in and, through its marketing, is 
using non-metric units to market its products.  A 6 inch or 1 foot sub is just 
a name, not an actual measure.  Perhaps what Subway should do is market a 15 
and 30 cm or (as I always referred to them) a half and whole. 

   

  As for metric labeling and the UPLR in the U.S., once again, I don't think 
many of those here really understand what the UPLR is.  Unlike the FPLA which 
is federal law, the UPLR is referred to as a "model law" or example of what a 
state can adopt for its labeling laws.  Some states, through statute, 
automatically adopt the latest version of the UPLR as promulgated by the NCWM.  
Others adopt it through various administrative or legislative means and yet 
others create laws based on or use parts of the UPLR.  Non-adoption of the UPLR 
does not necessarily mean metric only labeling is not permitted.  Even in 
states like NY and AL laws that make the metric system legal for use also imply 
that metric only labeling would stand up in court if challenged.  In some 
cases, if metric only labeling is not specifically prohibited, it is by 
default, permitted.  The key here is finding out in the states in question if 
there are any specific prohibitions against metric only labeling and if so, 
what is necessary to change it.  

   

  Phil

  On Jan 12, 2008 10:52 AM, STANLEY DOORE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  Since all but two US states now allow metric only packaging, why not let them 
use metric units only be printed and used as labels?

  Stan Doore

   

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Martin Vlietstra 

    To: U.S. Metric Association 

    Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 7:56 AM

    Subject: [USMA:40026] Re: Finishing metrication in Australia

     

    Pat,

     

    If Subway persist in ignoring your letters, would it help if you were to 
lodge an official complaint to your Government (state or federal as appropriate 
under Australian law).  After all, it is my understanding that Australia banned 
the use of imperial units many years ago and as you rightly point out, 
re-introducing them will undermine the teaching of science and mathematics in 
Australia (as is happening in the UK). 

     

    Regards

     

    Martin 

     


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    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Naughtin
    Sent: 11 January 2008 07:29
    To: U.S. Metric Association
    Cc: USMA
    Subject: [USMA:40024] Re: Finishing metrication in Australia

     

      On 2008/01/02, at 9:10 AM, Ezra Steinberg wrote:

       

      Pat:

      I was just wondering if, with a new government now in place, there might 
be any efforts to help certain industries (such as textiles) complete 
metrication (perhaps by their switching from centimeters to millimeters). 

      Best wishes for the new year!

      Cheers,

      Ezra

     

    Dear Ezra,

     

    No, I don't think that the change of government in Australia will have much 
effect on metrication. After the initial burst in the 1970s political parties 
generally decided that there was little interest in metrication matters as a 
political issue and since then they have simply ignored it. 

     

    This leaves a political vacuum where others may decide to use old 
pre-metric measures for their own commercial purposes.For 
exampleexpatriatesfrom the USAsuch as Subwayare currently pushing the ideas of 
a 'footlong' and a 'sixinch' andKFC is emulating this witha 'nine inch' bread 
roll filled with chicken as a marketing device. 

     

    I have written to KFC pointing out my opposition to their '9 inch' campaign 
I had no reply. Here is a copy.

     

   

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