Reminds me: when did the dairy industry broadcast the change in ice cream
products' size, from a half-gallon container to 1.75 quarts? Grrrrrrrrr.

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 4:21 PM, STANLEY DOORE <[email protected]>wrote:

>      McDonald's restaurant  is moving in the right direction.
>     On its new table top flip device telling about its history and food
> quality, except for calories, metric was used throughout (g & mg etc).  Only
> totals were listed in both oz and grams.  It's a major step toward the SI.
>     Stan Doore
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Victor Jockin <[email protected]>
> *To:* U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2009 1:32 PM
> *Subject:* [USMA:43086] Re: consumer education on the metric system
>
> Very well put and absolutely correct.  The only area in which I slightly
> disagree is your assumption that FMI actually believes those things.  It is
> a fully disingenuous attempt to avoid the possibility of some trivial
> one-time costs.
>
>
>
>  *From:* Phil Chernack <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2009 10:17 AM
> *To:* U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* [USMA:43085] Re: consumer education on the metric system
>
> Well, I pose this one:
>
> Does the avarage consumer know and understand the differences and
> relationships between ounces, pints, quarts and gallons?  Many times I see
> unit pricing in quarts but the items being sold have no mention of quarts on
> them.  They are either fl oz, mL or L.  It seems to me to be very
> disingenuous on the part of the food marketing industry to "claim" most
> consumers don't understand metric or rather, understand customary units
> better all the while they are changing package sizes to non-standard sizes
> and putting only fl oz rather than expressing rounded up units such as
> quarts or gallons.  Meantime, the unit pricing does not reflect these.  You
> know as well as I that most consumers don't even pay attention to the units
> on the package to begin with.  They buy by size--that is small, medium,
> large.  How many people have been hoodwinked into thinking they are buying a
> half-gallon carton of something when it really contains less.  The package
> size is a little smaller but it "looks" like a half-gallon.
>
> As for the space argument that rationally sized metric products won't fit
> into the current racks, refridgerators or shelves is a specious one at
> best.  I have seen plenty of rationally-sized metric products in the
> supermarkets from soda and juice to cleaners and they fit fine.
>
> One other note, the FMI refers to the "metric experiment"  I have news for
> them:  it's no experiment.  As many here can point out, many industries have
> converted to metric or work in metric with no issues and have made the
> deliberate decision to do so.  What we have is a long, slow, painful
> inevability that could be made quicker and less painful.
>
> Phil
> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Paul Trusten <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>  FMI claims that the American public does not understand the metric
>> system and is not demanding metric products. I think there is some truth to
>> this claim. Although the U.S. public has taken to metric soft drinks (and
>> hard drinks, too) , it remains to be seen if the average U.S. shopper
>> understands, *upon inspection, *how, for example, a 1 L bottle relates to
>> a 500 mL bottle or a 750 mL bottle.  Now, you and I on this list laugh at
>> such a statement, because we have made this understanding of metric units as
>> instinctive as cents relate to dollars.  But FMI is talking about the
>> average consumer who, under the FPLA amendment, suddenly will be faced with
>> labeling, shelf tags, and advertising in metric units only, and will have
>> to make a purchase based upon metric-only labeling.  Its point that numerous
>> questions will be handed to store personnel is a valid one (I speak here
>> from personal experience as a retail pharmacist over the years, when any
>> consumer-product issue comes up from behind and taps the public on the
>> shoulder) .
>>
>> We must face the fact that Americans are generally not taught or oriented
>> to using, and *comparing,* metric units.   Buying a 2 L bottle of Coke is
>> one thing, but really processing that measurement information is another.
>> Does the average shopper know that 2 L = 2000 mL, and can (s)he yet quickly
>> and easily relate a 2 L bottle to a 250 mL bottle?  I don't think so. I say
>> we need to work to change that.  We who extol the advantages of metric need
>> to educate our fellow Americans on features, and the virtues the metric
>> system.  This just isn't common knowledge yet in America.
>>
>> Developing a plan for consumer metric education is going to be a top
>> priority for me at USMA in the coming months.
>>
>> We can accomplish two things with mass consumer education:  to reduce any
>> possible public confusion over metric units,  and also to sell the decimal
>> advantage of metric.
>>
>>
>> Paul Trusten, R.Ph.
>> Public Relations Director
>> U.S. Metric Association, Inc.
>> www.metric.org
>> 3609 Caldera Blvd. Apt. 122
>> Midland TX 79707-2872 US
>> +1(432)528-7724
>> [email protected]
>>
>
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