On the other hand being told that the ball is coming at you at 50 m/s and
knowing that the pitch is just 20 m long tells you that you have 0.4 s to
work out what to do with the ball. (A little less because you are in front
of the wickets)

 

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Stephen Humphreys
Sent: 30 March 2010 22:28
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:47004] Re: FW: Special Employee Advisory: Message from Joe
Boardman

 

I watch a lot of Cricket and some Tennis (Wimbledon) and the use of mph is
to 'feel' the speed.

 

For example - imagine the hulking figure of Andrew "freddy" Flintoff running
at you and throwing a hard heavy ball at 95mph right at you!!

km/h is used on sport in other countries and the same is true there - they
equate/compare the speed with speed they can drive at.(for instance).

 

It's just entertainment.


> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [USMA:47003] Re: FW: Special Employee Advisory: Message from Joe
Boardman
> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 21:25:03 +0100
> 
> 
> In cricket and tennis (and I imagine baseball), the speed of the ball is
> often measured in mph (though when England is playing cricket in
Australia,
> km/h are sometimes shown). These could (and should) be converted to m/s -
I
> have never seen a cricket ball or a tennis ball travel for one kilometre
> (and certainly not one mile) under its own steam.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of [email protected]
> Sent: 30 March 2010 19:25
> To: U.S. Metric Association
> Subject: [USMA:47001] Re: FW: Special Employee Advisory: Message from Joe
> Boardman
> 
> 
> Wind speeds and the speeds of athletes (runners and swimmers) are easily
> visualized and can be understood in m/s by the general public, and even
> vehicle stopping distances and times for safety from speeds in m/s are
> reasonable. There is no good reason to discard speeds in m/s in favor of
> km/h. The planning of long trips and travel times is usually done at
> leisure, not in emergencies. Coherent SI units are best. 
> 
> ---- Original message ----
> >Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 04:56:01 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: "John M. Steele" <[email protected]> 
> >Subject: [USMA:47000] Re: FW: Special Employee Advisory: Message from Joe
> Boardman 
> >To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]>
> >
> > For a train, plane, car, etc, I recommend we NOT
> > belabor "coherent units" and just focus on using
> > correct symbols, km/h. I can pretty well guarentee
> > the public DOESN'T want to know the speed in meters
> > per second and carry out a division by 3.6 (or 3600)
> > to estimate "when do we get there."
> > 
> > You are certainly (technically) correct that
> > kilometers per hour isn't coherent units. However,
> > for the most common calculation done with the data,
> > it is more useful in everyday life. That is
> > probably why the BIPM explicitly allows the hour to
> > be used with the SI.
> > 
> > If AP doesn't accept the authority of the SI
> > Brochure, NIST SP330 and SP811, etc, there is not
> > much we can do to convince them. Since the AP Style
> > Guide requires online subscription or purchase, I
> > don't have it. But we need someone who has it to
> > analyze it's metric usage against the defining SI
> > documents and call the errors to AP's attention. It
> > might also make sense to check whether the
> > Government Printing Office is correct on the same
> > points that AP is wrong on. That might strengthen
> > the case.
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------
> >
> > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Mon, March 29, 2010 8:43:20 PM
> > Subject: [USMA:46998] Re: FW: Special Employee
> > Advisory: Message from Joe Boardman
> >
> > Of course, speed in SI is in units of m/s or in its
> > multiples by SI prefixes, e.g. km/s of a spacecraft.
> > "km/h" is not coherent SI, and "kph" is *certainly
> > not acceptable* in any version of units. Who has the
> > clout to correct the AP?
> > ---- Original message ----
> > >Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:28:54 -0400
> > >From: "Carleton MacDonald" <[email protected]> 
> > >Subject: [USMA:46997] FW: Special Employee
> > Advisory: Message from Joe Boardman 
> > >To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]>
> > >
> > > Arrrgh. The Associated Press Stylebook strikes
> > > again ...
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > Carleton
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > From: MacDonald, Carleton
> > > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 12:59
> > > To: Employee Communications
> > > Subject: RE: Special Employee Advisory: Message
> > from
> > > Joe Boardman
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > The Associated Press Stylebook is rather clueless
> > -
> > > in fact, flat-out wrong - on a number of issues
> > > regarding metric measure, and this is one of the
> > > more egregious ones. 
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > For one thing, there is no unit of distance
> > called a
> > > "k". Capitalized, "K" is the SI (International
> > > System of Units = the metric system) symbol for
> > > "Kelvin", the base unit of thermodynamic
> > > temperature. This is of course not what is meant
> > > here. The unit of length being used here is the
> > > kilometer, and its symbol - its only symbol - is
> > > "km", and the way to show distance over time is
> > > "km/h". "kph" in SI is meaningless, but no doubt
> > > they're deriving it from "mph", under the wrong
> > > assumption that as the "m" stands for "mile", the
> > > "k" stands for "kilometer". 
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > The fact that AP and many other users have no
> > idea
> > > how to properly express metric units has other
> > > examples too, such as "5K" road races (a 5-kelvin
> > > race?).
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > All of this of course stems from the fact that
> > the
> > > USA stubbornly resists joining the rest of the
> > world
> > > in measuring intelligently.
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > That said: at least we mentioned the speed in SI
> > as
> > > well as in old units, and that is good.
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > Carleton MacDonald
> > >
> > > 
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > From: Employee Communications
> > > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 10:41
> > > To: MacDonald, Carleton
> > > Subject: RE: Special Employee Advisory: Message
> > from
> > > Joe Boardman
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > Thanks for the input. But, according the
> > Associated
> > > Press Stylebook, kph is acceptable in all
> > > references.
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > 
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > From: MacDonald, Carleton
> > > Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 3:38 PM
> > > To: Employee Communications
> > > Subject: RE: Special Employee Advisory: Message
> > from
> > > Joe Boardman
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > One tiny minor thing: kilometers per hour is
> > > expressed "km/h".
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > 
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > From: Employee Communications
> > > Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 15:32
> > > Subject: Special Employee Advisory: Message from
> > Joe
> > > B.
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > Attached is a Special Employee Advisory from
> > > President and CEO Joe B.. Please post on all
> > > bulletin boards.
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > special employee advisory
> > >
> > > March 19, 2010
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > Dear Co-workers,
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > Specifically, this department will work on the
> > > planning and development activities that will
> > allow
> > > us to significantly increase operating speeds
> > above
> > > 150 mph (240 kph) on the Northeast Corridor. It
> > will
> > > also pursue partnerships with states and others
> > in
> > > the passenger rail industry to develop
> > > federally-designated high-speed rail corridors
> > such
> > > as the new projects moving forward in California
> > and
> > > Florida.
> > >
> > > 
> 

 

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