Ezra & all: >.....Oh, wait, . . . that's metric. Just multiple & submultiples of units i.e. suffixes/prefixes do not make the UNIT/quantity belong to SI Metric System of Units [Le Systeme Internationale d'Unites], unless these are linked to length unit METRE via "Velocitry of Light" - also see:
http://www.brijvij.com/bbv_shelving-NMile.pdf Regards, Brij Bhushan Vij (MJD 55296)/1726+D-111W15-06 (G. Saturday, 2010 April 10H14:08 (decimal) EST Aa Nau Bhadra Kritvo Yantu Vishwatah -Rg Veda Jan:31; Feb:29; Mar:31; Apr:30; May:31; Jun:30 Jul:30; Aug:31; Sep:30; Oct:31; Nov:30; Dec:30 (365th day of Year is World Day) ******As per Kali V-GRhymeCalendaar***** "Koi bhi cheshtha vayarth nahin hoti, purshaarth karne mein hai" Author had NO interaction with The World Calendar Association except via Media & Organisations to who I contributed for A Possible World Calendar, since 1971. My Profile:http://www.brijvij.com/bbv_2col-vipBrief.pdf HOME PAGE: http://www.brijvij.com/ Contact # 001 (201) 675-8548 Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 17:11:53 -0700 From: [email protected] Subject: [USMA:47091] RE: Decimal currency & Metrication To: [email protected] Many of the arguments you advance work for measures as well. Some industries are metric here, but those who aren't attempt to get the benefit of decimalization by picking one unit, sticking to it, and dividing it decimally. Carpenters may struggle with fractions but machinists work in decimal inches to a thousandth (we call it a mil, you call it a thou) or ten-thousandth, commonly (and confusingly) referred to as a tenth. Surveyors and civil engineers tend to work in decimal feet, with 0.01' giving about an eighth of an inch resolution.. Meat and produce is sold in decimal pounds so you can multiply by a decimal price, and a microprocessor in the scale can determine the total. Imagine how clever it would be if those different units were related by powers of ten and special prefixes to do the scaling. Oh, wait, . . . that's metric. From: Stephen Humphreys <[email protected]> To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, April 9, 2010 7:37:58 PM Subject: [USMA:47090] RE: Decimal currency & Metrication My own personal opinion is that currency and measures are so different that I could never support LSD (or a return to it). Unlike the everyday usage of measures by ordinary people base-10 currency makes computerisation of shopping, currency conversion, taxation, etc much easier. No doubt some might say that in fact you can use LSD in a computerised world and all the other things and that there are benefits that I cannot see myself however I think that decimal currency makes sense especially as the entire world(?) uses a decimal currency. It's for the latter reason that I would not think it would be seen as Brussels interfering as most countries never even converted to a decimal currency - it simply wasn't 'prequelled' if that makes sense. Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 23:03:13 +0000 From: [email protected] To: [email protected] CC: [email protected] Subject: [USMA:47089] RE: Decimal currency & Metrication The other matter relating to decimalization of the currency is whether a currency (like pounds-shilling-pence or L-s-d) uses more "natural" units or serves as a badge of "Britishness" not to be tossed overboard (according to those who would resist the changeover). One wonders if L-s-d had been kept around until now; any effort to decimalize the currency at this stage might just get run over by the bus of "Let's not let Brussels (since they're using a decimalized euro) tell us Brits what to do!" -- Ezra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Humphreys" <[email protected]> To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 9, 2010 2:46:31 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [USMA:47088] RE: Decimal currency & Metrication You could also say that 'base-10' is the only thing that links metric and decimal currency. On other levels there is very little commonality - For example - you can have a mixture of unit-types happening concurrently. In fact all countries are mixed unit (imp or USC and metric) - just to varying degrees, eg Germany has very little imperial - but still has it (BTU, inches) right up to the UK and then the US. In the latter two countries you can see a large mix of units operating concurrently. You cannot have a decimal currency and a non-decimal currency running concurrently. Maybe during a transition there are 'equivalences' but this simply makes non-dec currency equivalent to a a dec one. Some people say that money is a 'measure' of wealth. I think that's as far as the use of the word goes. Decimal and decimalization is a mathematical theory - ie 'decimal' is not a measurement. metric and metrication *is* a measurement topic. > Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 21:24:48 +0100 > From: [email protected] > Subject: [USMA:47087] Decimal currency & Metrication > To: [email protected] > > > > > I doubt it. Currency is different. It's not metricating. The > > equivalent in measures would be to make 10 inches = a foot etc (that's > > decimalisation) . > > Decimal currency predated the metric system, which is why there > are differences, but both decimal currency and metrication have a lot in > common - the main property being both align conversion of units/subunits > with the base numbering system. Since base 10 is universally used in > number representation (leaving aside computer internals), both > metrication and decimal currency achieve the same ease of conversion by > using tens and multiples of tens. Metrication is simply the appliance > of the principles of decimal currency to other forms of measure, > extending the range of multiples to suit varying magnitudes. > > Of course, it is in the interest of anti-metric campaigners to try and > paint metrication and decimalization as totally different concepts. > This is because decimal currency is widely accepted in the two main > metric hold-out countries. Pretty much every American is familiar with > converting between dollars and cents, and sees the correlation between > $1.24 and 124 cents without even thinking about it. > > A powerful argument in favor of metrication is that measuring your > height in metric as 1.74 m (or 174 cm) is exactly the same as dealing > with dollars and cents. For the far right jingoistic gun-toting > nationalists, you can point out that the metric system is simply the > application (and extension) of the American idea of applying decimal > principles to other forms of measurements. Once the US introduced > decimal currency (the first major currency to do so) it pretty much was > followed everywhere else. We should not lose the opportunity to draw > parallels between the two in the campaign for metrication in the US. > > For the UK, some people are old enough to remember the cumbersome twelve > pennies to the shilling an twenty shillings to the pound (which lasted > until 1971). It should be pointed out that if organizations like the > BWMA had their way in the seventies, people would still be struggling > with this nonsense. No doubt after metrication has been established for > a few years, people will look back on miles & pints with the same > curious bafflement at why people put up with it for so long. > > The parallels between metrication and decimal currencies are of major > importance in the campaign for metrication. They are *not* completely > different concepts, but two sides of the same coin (so to speak). > > Tom Wade > Get a new e-mail account with Hotmail - Free. Sign-up now. Get a new e-mail account with Hotmail - Free. Sign-up now. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1
