The Dalton/amu argument will probably surface after the 2014 CGPM congress
(where the redefinition of the kilogram, ampere, kelvin and mole will be
discussed - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_SI_definitions  ).   Any
dropping of the "l" in favour of "L" for the litre is likely to meet
resistance in Europe - it is only the Anglo-Saxons who have a problem with
"l" to represent the litre and that is because we do not have a stroke on
the number "1" when we handwrite it.

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of John M. Steele
Sent: 09 April 2013 10:35
To: U.S. Metric Association
Cc: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:52655] Re: Daltons

 

I don't believe the dalton replaced the unified atomic mass unit (symbol
"u").  The SI Brochure describes them as alternate names (and symbols) for
the same unit.  Actually I only looked in NIST SP330, where the dalton is
listed first.  That may signify it is preferred but the text does NOT
explicitly say so.  The situation is analogous to two symbols for the liter.
"Unified atomic mass unit" is quite a mouthful.  I always use dalton and I
don't see why the unified atomic mass unit can't be deprecated in favor of
the dalton.  Of course, I don't see why "l" can't be deprecated in favor of
"L", either.

 

The unit is important in chemistry as the amu is approximately the number of
proton and neutrons in the nucleus, and the connection between the gram and
mole (although the BIPM manages to define the mole without ever mentioning
it or Avogadro's number).  Binding energy and the averaging over naturally
occuring isotopes gives rise to non-integer values.

 

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From: Paul Trusten <[email protected]>
To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
Cc: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, April 9, 2013 12:35:05 AM
Subject: [USMA:52652] Re: Daltons

It takes a long time to achieve de facto deprecation of a unit. If the amu
was replaced by the dalton in 1961, no one reached the authors of my first
science textbooks or teachers with the news (1965). In fact, I never heard
of the dalton until the mid-seventies,  so we shall probably continue
struggling with that old name for Celsius for a while to come, too, even 65
years after its deprecation. 

Paul Trusten, Reg. Pharmacist
Vice President
U.S. Metric Association, Inc.
Midland, Texas USA
www.metric.org 
+1(432)528-7724
[email protected]


On Apr 8, 2013, at 20:29, Michael Payne <[email protected]> wrote:

> Interesting Unit at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin-like_growth_factor_1 
> 
> forth paragraph down:
> 
> IGF-1 consists of 70 amino acids in a single chain with three
intramolecular disulfide bridges. IGF-1 has a molecular weight of 7,649
daltons. 
> 
> There is another page on Daltons
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalton_%28unit%29  A unit accepted for use with
SI, seems with the prefixes we have, some sub unit of a gram would have been
equally good. Or is this something like the Astronomical unit on the other
end of the scale?
> 
> Michael Payne
> 
> 

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