Hi Eugene,

 

May I suggest that you read the Wikipedia article on harmonisation of
vehicle regulations:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Forum_for_Harmonization_of_Vehicle_Regul
ations .

 

This tells me that, apart from the US, there are fewer and fewer "national
requirements" - LHD and RHD is one, tropical, temperate and arctic is
another.  The countries to watch are China, India and Brazil.  

 

Martin

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of mechtly, eugene a
Sent: 14 February 2014 20:19
To: U.S. Metric Association
Cc: mechtly, eugene a
Subject: [USMA:53559] RE: Hawaii State HB 1938

 

Martin,

 

Different signal, safety, and control standards already require *two
different* assembly lines.

 

The signal, safety, and control *devices* can be made globally (everywhere)
in millimeters, but can still be different in configuration to meet
differing local (i.e. national) requirements.  e.g. Driver Controls on the
right side or on the left side?

 

Even after the USA becomes entirely SI in aerospace engineering as well as
in automotive engineering, the probability is that there will still be
different requirements for signal, safety, and control devices.

 

Eugene Mechtly

  _____  

From: Martin Vlietstra [[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 11:13 AM
To: mechtly, eugene a; 'U.S. Metric Association'
Subject: RE: [USMA:53556] RE: Hawaii State HB 1938

The point that I was making is that if the US industry does not accept
compatibility with OIML standards, it might well find itself having to run
two production lines - one for the export market and one for the local
market. In contrast, European manufacturers need only run one production
line, allowing small details like the face plate to be customer-specifi9c.

 

From: mechtly, eugene a [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: 14 February 2014 16:08
To: [email protected]; U.S. Metric Association
Cc: mechtly, eugene a
Subject: RE: [USMA:53556] RE: Hawaii State HB 1938

 

Martin (Vlietstra) and Eward B. 

 

The OIML Standard which Martin sent, specifies *only*  the units "gramme",
"Kilogramme", or "tonne" for mass, "Celsius", etc., i.e. only units from the
SI, with Oxford-English spellings, and accepts *no* units from outside the
SI!!!

 

On the other hand, SI-10, the ASTM standard, allows "duality", i.e. permits
units from outside the SI, sadly.

 

Unless, the latest edition of SI-10, which I have declined to purchase,
deletes units from outside the SI? 

 

In the sense of being exclusively SI, they are *not* compatible.

 

Eugene Mechtly

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From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf of
Martin Vlietstra [[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 5:45 AM
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:53556] RE: Hawaii State HB 1938

Are the ASTM standards and the OIML standards compatible? The OIML standards
can be found at http://www.oiml.org/en/files/pdf_r/r105-e93.pdf.

 

The OIML is the International Organisation for Legal Metrology. It works
closely in conjunction with the CGPM and both are located in Paris. The
OIML's mandate is to publish recommended standards to ensure that a
measurement which is legal in one country is also legal in another. For
example, if a British manufacturer, a French manufacturer and an American
manufacturer were all tendering to supply petrol [gasoline] pumps to a
customer in another country, the customer could, in his specification,
require that tehr pumps meet OIML specification R105 (See above) and this
would cover all the testing requirements.   

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Edward Schlesinger
Sent: 14 February 2014 05:39
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:53555] Hawaii State HB 1938

 

HB 1938 Relating to measurement standards is now being considered for
petroleum products, in which "The current standards as published by the
American Society for Testing and Materials (ASTM) and the Society of
Automotive Engineers (SAE)" are to be adopted. Meanwhile HB 36 RELATING TO
THE METRIC SYSTEM seems to be stalled in december although carried over to
regular session 2014.


 

-- 
Sincerely,
Edward B.

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