This is because very old manual typewriters did not have a "one" key; the
numerals went from 2 through 0 only. Everyone was taught back then to type a
lower case "L" to get "one". For people who learned a long time ago this is
a finger pattern hard to break.

Carleton

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Patrick Moore
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 14:36
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:54766] Re: labeling 1-liter bottles of Perrier

Lowercase el is ambiguous because it looks like the numeral one. I see no
advantage in the lowercase el for liter.

In my first month on the job as an editor, 30 years ago, I corrected several
dozen places where the typographer had entered an el to mean one. It was an
old habit in someone who had learned to type on an old pica typewriter,
where the same keystroke made both characters. In the Courier font on your
computer today, el and one still look very similar.

Cubic decimeter is a useful alternative for calculations of nonliquid
volumes.

From: <mechtly>, eugene a
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Reply-To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>"
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Thursday, July 2, 2015 12:11 PM
To: "U.S. Metric Association"
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: "U.S. Metric Association"
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [USMA:54765] Re: labeling 1-liter bottles of Perrier

In the Netherlands it it "1 Liter"; in Germany, "1 l", all three.  Thanks
Martin.
On Jul 2, 2015, at 4:39 AM, Martin Vlietstra
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi Stanislav,
I don't know about bottling plants, but "L" is often used when advertising
Perrier water in Europe.

I have a selection of advertisements, some of which show "L" and some of
which show "l":

United Kingdom:
http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=274501973
http://www.waitrose.com/shop/DisplayProductFlyout?productId=50549
http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/shop/gb/groceries/sparkling-water/perrier-sparkl
ing-mineral-water-750ml

Netherlands:
http://www.ah.nl/producten/product/wi198722/perrier-mineraalwater-koolzuurho
udend

Germany:
http://www.amazon.de/PERRIER-nat%C3%BCrliches-kohlens%C3%A4urehaltiges-Miner
alwasser-Frankreich/dp/B0051BLCCI
http://german.alibaba.com/product-tp/perrier-mineral-water-for-export-fob-eu
rope-117971051.html
http://www.kaufen.com/Preisvergleich/result.jsp?ga=g37&q=mineralwasser+perri
er

France:
http://www.carrefour.fr/search/site/--perrier/15
http://www.auchandirect.fr/boissons/eaux/eaux-gazeuses/id0/663
It should be remembered that in Continental Europe, the hand-written number
1 usually has a long leading stroke - see for example the picture at
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:FM_IMG_2024.JPG<https://urldefense.p
roofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__commons.wikimedia.org_wiki_File-3AFM-5FIMG-
5F2024.JPG&d=AwMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=BpxbfWo0gcPQHL0R58p0D96tVlzZl
sjR_iWGK6ETi80&m=sOg077__2SoziT2D6rMe_Mp9fMHkenze5ohZNL-PNiA&s=MlvlrexBixwB4
ACIZZVyfjuQbaDnIibsAVbRxzccDAk&e=>.

Martin

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stanislav Jakuba
Sent: 02 July 2015 00:03
To: U.S. Metric Association
Cc: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:54762] Re: labeling 1-liter bottles of Perrier

Paul:
The European bottles-filling plant had never seen L as symbol for dm3.
Always the l (lower case "el"). You might have a better success with that.


On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 2:13 PM, mechtly, eugene a
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Paul,

Let us know when Perrier labels one liter bottles as 1 L.

I drink all my water from a tap, not from a bottle, so I will not detect
this improvement by Perrier.

Eugene Mechtly

> On Jun 29, 2015, at 10:47 PM, Paul Trusten
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>
> Dear Perrier makers,
>
> Please place the "1 L" in large type on your one-liter bottles! I suppose
you have to include the fluid ounces for auld lang syne, but I want to be
able to tell the difference between the 1 L and the 750 mL sizes AT A
GLANCE, and  can't do that with ounces and quarts cluttering up tge field.
If, as you say on your Web site, your 1 L size is popular, then please
reflect this popularity on your label design.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul Trusten
> Midland TX USA
>

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