Tom - they use Imperial pints in Ireland - not US ones.
> On 29 Oct 2019, at 9:16 pm, bill roush <[email protected]> wrote: > > Tom, > I love your idea to call them all "British Imperial" measurements! > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2019, 3:35 PM <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Send USMA mailing list submissions to > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.colostate.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/usma > <https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.colostate.edu%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fusma&data=02%7C01%7Cusma%40lists.colostate.edu%7Cfedac95c5d36486c25b208d75d85b1a6%7Cafb58802ff7a4bb1ab21367ff2ecfc8b%7C0%7C0%7C637080701107725918&sdata=yz%2B36k0A2Ifgky0osC8kT%2FpAaiAhlWlhzxGhmxcM2Iw%3D&reserved=0> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of USMA digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. [USMA 1235] Re: labeling (Tom Wade) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 19:35:12 +0000 > From: Tom Wade <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > To: <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > Subject: [USMA 1235] Re: labeling > Message-ID: <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > It's important not to call it "US <anything>". Doing so only helps > those who want to pitch the shambolic mix you have at the moment as > "American" as opposed to the "foreign" system you are advocating. That > allows those who oppose metrication to wrap themselves in the flag of > patriotism. Call it "British Colonial Measure" (to distinguish it from > the British Imperial system, that was a reform of 1824). That more > accurately describes how and when it was imposed, and that it should > have been discarded long ago, along with monarchy, > pounds-shillings-pence and titles. > > Same reason to refer to "metric" rather than SI ("International" is the > kiss of death here, despite its more modern accurate meaning). > > The problem is there is a significant number of people that would prefer > *anything* that is seen to be American, as opposed to foreign. You have > to be able to counter emotional as well as rational opposition. > > One of the small pieces of fortune we had with metrication in Ireland, > was that it was so hard for anyone to be openly in favor of something > called the British Imperial System. ;-) > > Tom Wade > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > On 2019-10-29 12:26, Ressel, Howard R (DOT) wrote: > > > > I never say US Standard, always US Customary sort of says its common > > usage but not the standard. > > > > Howard > > > > *From:* USMA <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> *On Behalf Of *Paul > > Trusten > > *Sent:* Monday, October 28, 2019 5:21 PM > > *To:* USMA List Server <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> > > *Subject:* [USMA 1233] labeling > > > > ATTENTION: This email came from an external source. Do not open > > attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails. > > > > Ya know, even if the supplementary WOMBAT labeling is added to the > > wine bottles, isn’t it possible that the consumers will be much too > > drunk to care? > > > > I am going to claim my seat as a party pooper on this “issue.” For too > > long now, I have wasted my time going after minor problems such as > > this, when the U.S. as a whole is suffering from a much, much greater > > stagnation regarding a standard of measurement. We even have people > > who support U.S. metrication who can’t stop using the phrase “U.S. > > standard!” I call feet, pounds, etc. “legacy units,” lending them no > > more dignity than a cubit or a league. There is only ONE true standard > > of measurement. It is the SI. > > > > Let’s say the dual labels get put on the booze bottles. Have ‘y’all > > been looking at grocery store shelf tags lately? A few years ago, > > despite the round metric sizes of the beverage products, the sizes and > > their unit pricing are evaluated On those tags in terms of the fluid > > ounce. Despite the broad range of metric sizes for soft drinks (500 > > mL, 1 L, 1.25 L, 2 L, and 3 L), product metrication gets compromised > > in comparison shopping. 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