Hi EJ,

Thanks for the pointers. Ok, I think I see now that float_to_iq module is
fixed point. Am I interpreting these lines of code correctly that put an
8-bit bound on the mantissa with a 2's complement sign bit, leaving the
remaining 8-bits for radix:


assign shift_val = (in[30:23] > 127)? (in[30:23] - 127): (127 - in[30:23]);

...

wire [15:0] final_val = (in[31] == 1)?(~shift + 1'b1):shift;


I've been pursuing this conversion from within my noc block but doing it in
the block controller instead is looking more attractive.

Thanks,
Andrew




On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 4:49 AM, EJ Kreinar <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Andrew,
>
> As far as I can tell, that particular verilog block implements a 32-bit
> floating point to 16-bit fixed point conversion. The name may be a misnomer
> because it does not actually break the input into I/Q channels.
>
> For floating to fixed conversion in software, I usually refer to this
> wikipedia page, which includes notation information and provides a
> quick/easy conversion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_(number_format)
>
> Usually my rule of thumb is that if there's a plausible way to do
> something in software, it's better to do it in software :D The C++ control
> block driver is a good place to wrap some helper code (e.g., converting
> taps, calculating magic numbers, etc etc) around your time-critical and
> performance-intensive FPGA operations.
>
> EJ
>
> On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 7:30 AM, Andrew Lanez <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> EJ,
>>
>> I spent some time wrestling with the 32-bit to 16-bit conversion in my
>> verilog noc block then realized doing the conversion in the C++ control
>> block driver might be more straightforward. I'm trying to digest the
>> following:
>>
>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/EttusResearch/fpga/b108e88
>> 865ee0fa68e685461681d8ca6a320b937/usrp3/lib/vita/float_to_iq.v
>>
>> I can't tell if that converter is fixed-point. I'm inclined to believe
>> it's 16-bit compressed floating point. Do you or anyone have references to
>> do an equivalent conversion in C++?
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 8:51 AM, EJ Kreinar <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>
>>> The OOT module .xml file definition currently only supports writing
>>> scalar registers, so you need a custom C++ driver. The int_vector option
>>> has not been implemented, and honestly I'm not sure if it would even make
>>> sense because there's many different ways the HDL could implement a
>>> "vector" of taps... it's not really a one-size-fits-all problem.
>>>
>>> My recommendation would be to model your hf_chlizer's C++ driver on the
>>> in-tree fir_block_ctrl_impl. Use the sr_write functions to program your
>>> taps as your HDL code requires.
>>>
>>> You'll notice fir_block_ctrl_impl uses integer taps. This ends up being
>>> a little clumsy when developing flowgraphs, since your flowgraph
>>> application needs to handle the floating point / fixed point conversion. In
>>> the past, I've created a C++ driver that accepts floating point inputs and
>>> converts to fixed point before programming to FPGA registers. Your
>>> preference.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> EJ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 6:00 AM, Andrew Lanez via USRP-users <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Typo, the 3rd to last paragraph should read:
>>>>
>>>> Or I could hack *rfnoc_fir_cci()*. I started this by replacing int
>>>> vectors with std::complex vectors everywhere FIR taps were referenced in
>>>> the in-tree module's C++ library but I stopped when it traced up to block.h
>>>> because that may affect other modules.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 2:56 AM, Andrew Lanez <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am developing a FIR filter that will eventually accepts complex taps
>>>>> reprogrammable during runtime. As a first iteration, I want to verify it
>>>>> works like the in-tree module with int_vector real taps. So I configure 
>>>>> the
>>>>> settings register in OOT module's .xml file to take int_vector taps but
>>>>> running it returns:
>>>>> RuntimeError: RuntimeError: not yet implemented: int_vector
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess it's because the in-tree module's ettus.rfnoc_fir_cci() make
>>>>> function supports int_vector whereas my rfnocmodtool generated make
>>>>> function hf_chlizer.fir() does not.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I changed my OOT module's .xml to use ettus.rfnoc_fir_cci() instead
>>>>> of hf_chlizer.fir() and output shows both I and Q samples are filtered
>>>>> identically by real taps.
>>>>>
>>>>> But ettus.rfnoc_fir_cci() does not seem to support complex_vector
>>>>> taps. So I must revert to hf_chlizer.fir() in which case I get:
>>>>> RuntimeError: RuntimeError: Invalid block definition in
>>>>> /home/switchlanez/rfnoc/share/uhd/rfnoc/blocks/fir.xml: RuntimeError:
>>>>> Found invalid arguments for block fir.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or I could hack hf_chlizer.fir(). I started this by replacing int
>>>>> vectors with std::complex vectors everywhere FIR taps were referenced in
>>>>> the in-tree module's C++ library but I stopped when it traced up to 
>>>>> block.h
>>>>> because that may affect other modules.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) What's the best approach to implement a vector of complex taps
>>>>> reprogrammable during runtime?
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) My verilog code assumes one complex tap is 32 bits (leftmost 16
>>>>> bits for I, rightmost 16 bits for Q) and formats complex samples the same
>>>>> (in-tree module also handles complex sample this way). Will UHD
>>>>> automatically convert complex floats incoming from the host to sc16 for 
>>>>> the
>>>>> embedded settings registers?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>
>>>>
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