On 01/05/16 02:26, John Levine wrote:
>>> We talked about this at great length over dinner in Buenos Aires.
>>> Demanding a web server at the same domain name used in e-mail
>>> addresses is operationally a non-starter for large organizations.
>>
>> STS is primarily for the large email providers authoring the draft,
>> for whom this is not a real obstacle.
> 
> They were there at dinner Buenos Aires, and that is most definitely
> not what they said.  Perhaps they'll chime in when they get to work
> on Monday.
> 
> Indeed, it's pretty much the opposite -- on my tiny FreeBSD box I can
> set up the web servers to do whatever I want, but at big organizations
> the mail and web operators are often in different silos.

Wouldn't the same argument tend to indicate SRV or a sub-domain are
as troublesome, given in many enterprises, mail and DNS can be in
different silos? After all, isn't that the core of the stated argument
for not doing DANE/DNSSEC? While putting up a sub-domain or an SRV
might be easier than signing the DNS, putting up a .well-known also
isn't hard.

I suspect we're in a place here where there's no answer that's not
a bit of work for someone whose job is primarily not email. And as
the pain involved will vary based on loads of things even down to
the specific personnel involved, I'm not sure how the WG can make a
good choice there other than by trying to poll operators or maybe
by measuring, if there's some other sufficiently similar webby
thing often done for email services.

S.


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> John
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