----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alice Wonder" <[email protected]> > To: "uta" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 7, 2019 6:42:10 AM > Subject: Re: [Uta] SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit TLS Proposal > > Hear hear, and I share the passion too. > > If it were up to me, an RFC would be published deprecating opportunistic > TLS for SMTP. > > System administrators would have three years, but after that, TLS 1.3+ > would be required for SMTP. > > Reason for TLS 1.3+ is that it requires ciphers with forward secrecy. > > But I know it will never fly. It's what I want though. I feel the pain too. There is too much operational inertia in the world of email servers. Upgrades take years. It took years to deprecate RC4. DKIM still uses outdated cyphers, and there are no new ones approved (yet) AFAIK. _______________________________________________ Uta mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/uta
- Re: [Uta] SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit T... Viruthagiri Thirumavalavan
- Re: [Uta] SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit T... Jim Fenton
- Re: [Uta] SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit T... Viruthagiri Thirumavalavan
- Re: [Uta] SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit T... Alice Wonder
- Re: [Uta] SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit T... Viruthagiri Thirumavalavan
- Re: [Uta] SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit T... Alice Wonder
- Re: [Uta] SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit T... Viruthagiri Thirumavalavan
- Re: [Uta] SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit T... Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [Uta] SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit T... Alice Wonder
- Re: [Uta] SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit T... Viruthagiri Thirumavalavan
- Re: [Uta] SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit T... Franck Martin
- Re: [Uta] SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit T... Jim Fenton
- Re: [Uta] SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit T... Peter Gutmann
- Re: [Uta] SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit T... Alice Wonder
- Re: [Uta] SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit T... Peter Gutmann
- [Uta] Deprecating "Opportunistic TLS"... Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [Uta] SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit T... Alice Wonder
- Re: [Uta] SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit T... John Levine
- Re: [Uta] SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit T... Alice Wonder
- Re: [Uta] SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit T... Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [Uta] SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit T... Peter Gutmann
