> On Jan 7, 2019, at 9:55 PM, Peter Gutmann <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I'm a privacy zealot > > So how would deprecating opportunistic TLS help in that regard? What Alice really meant is deprecating *cleartext* TLS, and with TLS now mandatory, somehow also getting authentication in place. This is not about to happen overnight. -- Viktor. _______________________________________________ Uta mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/uta
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- Re: [Uta] SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit T... Franck Martin
- Re: [Uta] SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit T... Jim Fenton
- Re: [Uta] SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit T... Peter Gutmann
- Re: [Uta] SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit T... Alice Wonder
- Re: [Uta] SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit T... Peter Gutmann
- [Uta] Deprecating "Opportunistic TLS"... Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [Uta] SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit T... Alice Wonder
- Re: [Uta] SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit T... John Levine
- Re: [Uta] SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit T... Alice Wonder
- Re: [Uta] SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit T... Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [Uta] SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit T... Peter Gutmann
- Re: [Uta] SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit T... Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [Uta] SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit T... John Levine
- Re: [Uta] SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit T... Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [Uta] SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit T... John R Levine
- Re: [Uta] SMTP Over TLS on Port 26 - Implicit T... John Levine
