VACList-Digest Wednesday, August 29, 2001 Issue 46
Today's Topics:
1. Re: Vent or Fantastic Vent
2. Re: A/C Coil cleaner
3. Re: GFI Trips
4. Re: Grey water tank leak
5. NOT quite Vintage --- but looking for info.
6. Re: GFI Trips
7. Purchased Airstream #2
8. Re: Successful Refrigerator Burp
9. Re: GFI Trips
10. Re: NOT quite Vintage --- but looking for info.
11. Re: Purchased Airstream #2
12. Advice needed replacing skin
13. Re: 64 Globetrotter Stove Vent Pipe Cover
14. Real Linoleum ?
15. This is a reply to: Sympatico: Hello from St. John's, Newfoundland
16. Previous discussions
17. Re: Previous discussions
18. Re: Advice needed replacing skin
19. Re: Advice needed replacing skin
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Message Number: 1
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 18:35:47 -0500
From: "Don Hardman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Vent or Fantastic Vent
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Get the fantastic vent, you won't be sorry. Check out this site they =
have the bezel you will need for an Airstream. =
http://members.aol.com/adohen1/page/Fan-tastic.htm
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From: Robert Gill=20
To: Multiple recipients of VACList=20
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 6:25 PM
Subject: [VAC] Vent or Fantastic Vent
Just wondering if any one knows of someplace I may get a 14X14 vent? =
Cheap?
Looked at a Fantastic Vent, and they wanted $139.00.
I could really use two, if I can afford it. The plastic bag gets ugly.
Thanks
Bobby
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<DIV>Just wondering if any one knows of someplace I may get a 14X14 =
vent?=20
Cheap?</DIV>
<DIV>Looked at a Fantastic Vent, and they wanted $139.00.</DIV>
<DIV>I could really use two, if I can afford it. The plastic bag gets=20
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<DIV>Thanks</DIV>
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Message Number: 2
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:16:26 -0500
From: Dan Weeks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A/C Coil cleaner
Don:
Didn't know there was such a thing as aerosol coil cleaner. Let us know how
well it works! Thanks!
Dan
75 argosy 26
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> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 16:31:08 -0700
> To: Multiple recipients of VACList <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [VAC]
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> Message Number: 30
> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 14:54:57 -0500
> From: "Don Hardman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: AC coils
>
> I made my weekly visit to the A/S at storage today and decided to look at
> the AC coils
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Message Number: 3
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:21:46 -0500
From: Dan Weeks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GFI Trips
Thanks, scott and gerald. The extension cord and 30 amp box at the house are
new, the trailer cord I imagine is as old as the trailer. Sounds like the
first step is to take a vacuum cleaner and a can of dust-off or two to the
trailer main panel and then all the outlets, and see if that doesn't do it.
And if it doesn't, to replace the trailer's 30-amp cord. And if it doesn't
to check out the wiring under the a/c cowl. Do I have the sequence right,
Dr. J?
Thanks again to you both.
Dan
75 Argosy 26
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> Message Number: 25
> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 00:41:18 -0500
> From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: GFI Trips when rains--Help!
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Message Number: 4
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:24:12 -0500
From: Dan Weeks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Grey water tank leak
Thanks, Scott. I'll do exactly as you suggest.
Dan
75 Argosy 26
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> Message Number: 22
> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 00:12:31 -0400
> From: "Scott Scheuermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Grey water tank overflow dripping from belly pan
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Message Number: 5
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 02:20:48
From: "H. A. K." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NOT quite Vintage --- but looking for info.
I just aquired a 1980 caravelle which is 22' long.
In talking with the original owner it was suggested that
this was an experimental or promotional trailer and that
only 500 were made...It has the double blue stripes,,, and the
word "caravelle" painted in front of the door.
I stepped it off and I would say it was 21-22' long
o.k. question #1 - I thought all caravels were 17-18' long
#2. if anyone has any information about this year/model I would
be overjoyed if you shared with the group...
O.k. you history buffs,,,, what's the scoop ???
sincerely yours,
K. Andre' Hylton
52 cloud
67 caravel
73 argosy
80 caravelle
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Message Number: 6
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 20:45:57 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GFI Trips
I'd clean the wiring in the A/C the same time as cleaning the panels and
outlet boxes. Then replace the cord.
Gerald J.
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Message Number: 7
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:00:42 -0600
From: "Terry O'Neill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Purchased Airstream #2
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Hi all !
Well it happened. Before buying the 60 Overlander I had been chasing a =
local 66 Tradewind. The owners are in their mid 70's and have not used =
it in 8 years. I kept in touch with them for over a year but ultimately =
they said their son was taking it. (but it doesn't end there)
I purchased a 60 Overlander in October of 2000 from Southern Ohio but =
did not pick it up until June 2001. I drove from Calgary to south of =
Columbus Ohio in 2 days (approx 3000 miles one way) while my wife Barb =
and 2 young daughters flew out. We then took 2 weeks for the return trip =
which included a visit to the Airstream factory for a tour, a detour to =
Niagara Falls, 3 days in Chicago (hotel), a visit to Wisconsin Dells, a =
stop at the International Rally in Sioux Falls (caught up with Scot & =
Lise Scheuermann who also own a 60 Overlander) , visits to Mt Rushmore =
and Crazy Horse monuments and a pass through Montana on the way home to =
Calgary.
It was a fabulous trip with only one mishap, a huge hailstorm near Mt =
Rushmore that left the curbside of our Overlander rather dimpled.
We continued to enjoy the Overlander almost every weekend in July and =
August and then the phone rang. Remember the 66 Tradewind at the =
beginning of this tale? The owners son was being transferred to Europe =
and would not be taking their trailer after all. Well before I knew it I =
had bought my 2nd Airstream. It is a very clean 66 Tradewind with a =
double bed layout. It needs an oven and a furnace and a polish but that =
appears to be all. (of course I expect some surprises). All the curved =
windows are intact, the subfloor is solid, the original fabric on both =
Gauchos is in good shape (the foam was replaced about 10 years ago) the =
interior woodwork is original. Even all 4 hubcaps and the owners manual =
are included. I will continue to share with the list the roller coaster =
ride of vintage Airstream ownership but it is definitely a high for us =
at the moment.
Best Regards
Terry O'Neill
60 Overlander International Double
66 Tradewind Double
WBCCI 4786
VAC
P.S. interesting to note that the 60 Overlander specs say it weighs 3250 =
lbs but the 66 Tradewind is 2 ft shorter but weighs 4080lbs. Where is =
the extra beef hiding?
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi all !</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well it happened. Before buying the 60 =
Overlander I=20
had been chasing a local 66 Tradewind. The owners are in their mid 70's =
and have=20
not used it in 8 years. I kept in touch with them for over a =
year but=20
ultimately they said their son was taking it. (but it doesn't =
end=20
there)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I purchased a 60 Overlander in =
October of 2000=20
from Southern Ohio but did not pick it up until June 2001. I drove =
from=20
Calgary to south of Columbus Ohio in 2 days (approx 3000 miles one =
way)=20
while my wife Barb and 2 young daughters flew out. We then took 2 weeks =
for the=20
return trip which included a visit to the Airstream factory for a tour, =
a detour=20
to Niagara Falls, 3 days in Chicago (hotel), a visit to Wisconsin Dells, =
a stop=20
at the International Rally in Sioux Falls (caught up with Scot & =
Lise=20
Scheuermann who also own a 60 Overlander) , visits to Mt Rushmore and =
Crazy=20
Horse monuments and a pass through Montana on the way home to=20
Calgary.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It was a fabulous trip with only one =
mishap, a huge=20
hailstorm near Mt Rushmore that left the curbside of our =
Overlander rather=20
dimpled.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>We continued to enjoy the Overlander =
almost every=20
weekend in July and August and then the phone rang. Remember the 66 =
Tradewind at=20
the beginning of this tale? The owners son was being transferred to =
Europe and=20
would not be taking their trailer after all. Well before I knew it I had =
bought=20
my 2nd Airstream. It is a very clean 66 Tradewind with a double bed =
layout. It=20
needs an oven and a furnace and a polish but that appears to be all. (of =
course=20
I expect some surprises). All the curved windows are intact, the =
subfloor is=20
solid, the original fabric on both Gauchos is in good shape (the foam =
was=20
replaced about 10 years ago) the interior woodwork is original. Even all =
4=20
hubcaps and the owners manual are included. I will continue to share =
with the=20
list the roller coaster ride of vintage Airstream ownership but it is =
definitely=20
a high for us at the moment.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best Regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Terry O'Neill</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>60 Overlander International =
Double</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>66 Tradewind Double</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>WBCCI 4786</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>VAC</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>P.S. interesting to note that the 60 =
Overlander=20
specs say it weighs 3250 lbs but the 66 Tradewind is 2 ft shorter but =
weighs=20
4080lbs. Where is the extra beef hiding?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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Message Number: 8
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 22:06:21 -0600
From: "Fred Coldwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Successful Refrigerator Burp
For those with old trailers and old appliances, here is a
ray of hope. I just successfully burped the non-original
Instamatic model RV-4 refrigerator in my 1957 Flying Cloud.
Before burping, it did nothing when the electricity was
turned on (the propane is not yet connected). Now, it cools
down inside. Before burping, it did not cool at all.
"Burping" is turning a recalcitrant refrigerator upside
down so the cooling solution inside the coils is remixed and
refreshed. I removed my fridge from it's snug cavity, left
in upside down on the floor for 36 hours, righted it then
plugged it in. The cooling coils got hot and the interior
got cool. I have yet to check the interior fridge and
freezer temperatures with a thermometer to see if adequate
temperatures can be reached and maintained. Until that test
is passed, I will not know whether the burp was fully
successful.
I have two mushroom style roof vents to release the warm
air generated by the refrigerator (my trailer is the first
1957 Flying Cloud in RJ's VAC model year photo archives).
Before I reinstall the fridge, I will put a 12 volt 5 inch
(or thereabout) diameter muffin fan in one of the two vents,
to create a draft on hotter days. The other vent will
remain unimpeded for convection drafts. Eventually, the
muffin fan will be powered by a solar panel, and controlled
by a temperature driven on-off switch.
Although the thermometer test is indicative of success,
the real test is wholly empirical: I'll put a Left Hand
Canyon amber ale in the fridge to see how well it cools. A
successful burp will thus be confirmed and celebrated at the
same time.
Fred Coldwell
Denver, CO
1957 Flying Cloud
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Message Number: 9
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 08:27:36 -0500
From: GeorgeHumphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GFI Trips
Hi Dan,
I don't know if anyone has mentioned it, but GFIs age. If you have another
of the same amperage, try switching the GFIs and see if the problem moves
or goes away. A lot simpler than the efforts below. FWIW IMO
George
'89 Excella 29'
At 09:21 PM 8/28/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Thanks, scott and gerald. The extension cord and 30 amp box at the house are
>new, the trailer cord I imagine is as old as the trailer. Sounds like the
>first step is to take a vacuum cleaner and a can of dust-off or two to the
>trailer main panel and then all the outlets, and see if that doesn't do it.
>And if it doesn't, to replace the trailer's 30-amp cord. And if it doesn't
>to check out the wiring under the a/c cowl. Do I have the sequence right,
>Dr. J?
>
>Thanks again to you both.
>
>Dan
>75 Argosy 26
>
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>> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 00:41:18 -0500
>> From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: GFI Trips when rains--Help!
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Message Number: 10
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 12:21:29 -0400
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NOT quite Vintage --- but looking for info.
As you may now suspect, a certain model name would be used for different
lengths depending on the year in question.
Scott
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From: "H. A. K." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of VACList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:20 AM
Subject: [VAC] NOT quite Vintage --- but looking for info.
> I just aquired a 1980 caravelle which is 22' long.
> In talking with the original owner it was suggested that
> this was an experimental or promotional trailer and that
> only 500 were made...It has the double blue stripes,,, and the
> word "caravelle" painted in front of the door.
> I stepped it off and I would say it was 21-22' long
> o.k. question #1 - I thought all caravels were 17-18' long
> #2. if anyone has any information about this year/model I would
> be overjoyed if you shared with the group...
>
> O.k. you history buffs,,,, what's the scoop ???
>
> sincerely yours,
>
> K. Andre' Hylton
> 52 cloud
> 67 caravel
> 73 argosy
> 80 caravelle
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Message Number: 11
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 12:25:34 -0400
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Purchased Airstream #2
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Terry,
I suspect that if you compare the two frames that you will find some of =
the "extra beef".
Scott
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Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 11:00 PM
Subject: [VAC] Purchased Airstream #2
Hi all !
Snip
Best Regards
Terry O'Neill
60 Overlander International Double
66 Tradewind Double
WBCCI 4786
VAC
P.S. interesting to note that the 60 Overlander specs say it weighs =
3250 lbs but the 66 Tradewind is 2 ft shorter but weighs 4080lbs. Where =
is the extra beef hiding?
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [VAC] Purchased =
Airstream=20
#2</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi all !</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Snip</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best Regards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Terry O'Neill</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>60 Overlander International =
Double</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>66 Tradewind Double</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>WBCCI 4786</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>VAC</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>P.S. interesting to note that the 60 =
Overlander=20
specs say it weighs 3250 lbs but the 66 Tradewind is 2 ft shorter but =
weighs=20
4080lbs. Where is the extra beef hiding?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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Message Number: 12
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 11:51:07 -0500
From: "Jeff Griffin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Advice needed replacing skin
<html><div style='background-color:'><P>I'd like to remove a damages skin from my
Airstream. I'm looking for some advice from those folks who have attempted it. The
only thing I know for sure is that I have ample energy and enthusiasm. I'd really
apprecia<P>I have a bunch of questions. </P>
<P>1. What gauge aluminum should I purchase?</P>
<P>2. What type of rivet should be used? (length, size, etc.)</P>
<P>3. What is the best tool to cut the stock? What other tools do I need?</P>
<P>4. What is the best procedure for removing the old rivets?</P>
<P>5. Am I crazy to undertake this?</P>
<P>I plan to become a member of the VAC which would allow me to access the archives.
Is there more material on replacing damaged panels in the archives?</P>
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Message Number: 13
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:56:19 -0700
From: "Roger Hightower" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 64 Globetrotter Stove Vent Pipe Cover
Charles,
The cover on my trailer is made by ZipDee, and is aluminum. You might give
them a call
Roger Hightower
WBCCI 4165, VAC, TCT
1975 31' Sovereign
Mesa, AZ
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Message Number: 14
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 12:29:47 -0500
From: "Jim Combs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Real Linoleum ?
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Does anyone know how heavy real linoleum is
as compared to vinyl or carpeting, etc? I'd
been leaning towards the Bruce laminated wood
flooring, but finally found a source for
linoleum. If it's not too heavy, I'd love
to go with the linoleum.
Thanks,
Jimbo / '76 Sovereign
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Message Number: 15
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 11:32:27 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: This is a reply to: Sympatico: Hello from St. John's, Newfoundland
> Sean, your isp refuses to accept mail addressed to:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> So here's my answer:
>
> I think the Univolt was abusive to the battery and so replacement with a
> modern multistage chargers like the StatPower (though one of the list
> members liked it so long as it worked) or Intelli... would lead to
> better battery life, and more rapid charging from AC power sources. I
> know my dad reworked the Univolt that I have with a lot of solid state,
> probably using a regulator circuit that I designed.
>
> Gerald J.
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Message Number: 16
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 11:26:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Airstreamer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Previous discussions
Hello, My name is George Thomas. I am new to the Vac
list even though I have viewed your site many times
over the past year. I am the PROUD owner of a 1966 22'
Safari. I am in the process of restoring her to her
natural beauty. The exterior only has a few minor
blemishes. The interior had some water freeze damage
and some floor rot in the rear bath. I have pretty
much taken everything out with the exception of the
upper cabinets.
I was looking on Tom Patterson's web page for previous
discussions but can't seem to find anything. I am
interested in finding out the proper was of repairing
the floor because mine is rotted out all the way to
the outside edge of my rig.
Thanks
George Thomas
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Message Number: 17
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 15:22:02 -0400
From: "Robert Gill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Previous discussions
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He also included photos. If you want I can send it to you.
Bobby
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I was looking on Tom Patterson's web page for previous
discussions but can't seem to find anything. I am
interested in finding out the proper was of repairing
the floor because mine is rotted out all the way to
the outside edge of my rig.
Thanks
George Thomas
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Message Number: 18
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 17:57:20 -0400
From: Garnett Horner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Advice needed replacing skin
At 11:51 AM 08/29/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>I'd like to remove a damages skin from my Airstream. I'm looking for some
>advice from those folks who have attempted it. The only thing I know for
>sure is that I have ample energy and enthusiasm. I'd really appreciate some
>sage advice, either positive or negative about the project. I have a bunch
>of questions.
First of all Jeff, it's a very doable job. Just get the right tools.
1. What gauge aluminum should I purchase?
If you have a 50s or 60s trailer, you should get 1/32" thick aluminum. You
don't say what year your trailer is but if it is pre-mid 60s, the aluminum
alloy is 2024T3 Alclad. Some time in the 60s AS changed the type of
aluminum. I believe you can get this alloy from Aircraft Spruce (on the
web) for example.
2. What type of
>rivet should be used? (length, size, etc.)
You should use the shaveable rivet that's available from AirstreamDreams
(again, they are on the web). They have the correct rivet. I would remove
the elastomer gasket from the rivet and use Vulkem to seal.
3. What is the best tool to cut
>the stock?
After removing the piece you want to replace, take your new sheet of
aluminum to a sheet metal shop that has a shear large enough to handle your
size. Have them cut your sheet to the same size as the original.
What other tools do I need?
I would get some Cleco clamps and pliers. Depending upon how large a piece
you are tackling, get as many Cleos as you can afford. Ideally, use one
for each hole. Check Aircraft Spruce for Clecos.
When you have the new sheet of aluminum that's the same size as the
original, lay one on top of the other and clamp together. At this point
you want to transfer the holes from the original to the new piece so
alignment is critical. Now, you can do this several ways. Use a transfer
punch of the correct size to tranfer the hole center to the new sheet. You
can either drill the hole to the size of your new rivets or use a hand
punch. You can get a hand punch for sheet metal from Northern Hydraulic
here in Virginia. This punch has a small tip that will align with the
dimple from the transfer punch. Real good for lots of holes plus the
punched hole is very uniform.
4. What is the best procedure for
>removing the old rivets?
So far as removing the rivets, I used a center punch in the center of the
rivet and drilled the rivet. Sometimes the drill wants to "walk off"
center but just angle the drill back towards center. I use a wood chisel
to remove what's left.
Hope this helps,
Garnett
2878
60 Caravanner
WDCU
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Message Number: 19
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 15:33:57 -0700
From: Paul Farley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Advice needed replacing skin
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Jeff,
<br>FWIW
<br>I followed Garnett's advice and I'd like to add one thing.
<u>Sometimes </u>
it pays to leave the last edge of your sheet that you intend to rivet a
little bit longer than the original. The reason for this is you may
find that unless you can get your sheet <u>exactly</u> in the same place
and as tight as the original you will run out of surface area to rivet
on the last edge. To avoid this dilemma if it is left long you can
always trim the last bit but you sure can't add.
<br>Good luck and I hope my description doesn't confuse you.
<br>Paul
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