On Monday 20 October 2008, Bradley Holt wrote:
> In an earlier discussion I talked about how I think VAGUE is relevant and
> can influence local businesses. 
"Can" being the keyword here.

> 
> There are a number of reasons for this decision that I've explained here:
> http://bradley-holt.blogspot.com/2008/10/found-line-software-license.html
Nice post. Where's the free warez and the download button?

> 
> Since I made the statement that I think VAGUE is relevant to local
> businesses, then I felt it was only right to ask for feedback on this
> decision from the VAGUE mailing list ;-)
> 
> So, fire away - what are your thoughts on this idea?

What exactly are we talking about here?  The role of VAGUE in promoting FOSS in 
VT, right?
IIRC, this question has arisen before like a wack-a-mole at a hammer sale.
To date, that message has been spread, atomically, through our members perhaps 
to [i]their[/i]
respective audiences; not cogently as a group outside of the monthly meet-ups; 
which
are of interest only to geeks-like-us (not usually the decision-makers)

And who would be the intended audience for our message? 

If it's BIG business, the State and its many bureauracies,
Health-care institutions, the public school system;
well, IMHO: that's not going to happen through vague. As cited in Balu's 
thread, we lack the
bonafides to convince the PHB's to entertain the risk. They will have to hear 
it from
places like vtSDA, from other suits in ivory-towers that they can better relate 
to.
Lots of luck there.

Let's play the "Where are They Now?" game.
 People may not remember, but Champlain College heavily invested in
other initiatives prior to vtSDA. So is it fair to measure their potential for 
success based
on their own track record?

Jack Hoffman, Executive Director, Vermont Broadband Council.  
Alan Kamman, Executive Director, Vermont Telecom Advancement Center (VTAC).  
David Binch, Director Vermont Information Technology Center

"The Council is providing leadership on Vermont broadband issues."
Well, Northlink is the only real broadband project the State is working on at 
present, and
David Hallquest (VELCO) is calling the shots. And, most likely, Tim Nulty is 
going to 
eat their lunch when (if?) VFN gets off the ground.
The above named, in addition to their exhaustive studies on BB, were actively 
engaged 
(read: spending grant monies) on telework as well.
I remember meeting with them (at Champ College) to proffer a FOSS mindset for 
their model.
as these guys were the luminaries (for some in govt) who were going to provide 
the 'guiding light'. 

After all the papers were published and summits held,
they ended up sponsoring a public event in Stowe and not enough people signed 
up;
it had to be canceled.

[quote]
http://www.imls.gov/pubs/wbws01cp1.htm
Funded by the Institute of Museum and Library Services (IMLS), the State of 
Vermont Department of Libraries
 is beginning a two-year "Mobile Library Literacy" project to discover if
 mobile library services are a viable means for serving rural and suburban 
populations in the 21st century. 
[/quote]
I don't remember who put together above project, but I haven't seen a 
book-mobile in waterville since i moved here,
7 years ago.

My Point:  If the stars who've descended from the likes of Gte, Ibm, and of 
course Champ. College,
can't effect change on a large scale what hope does vague have? The only way to 
really make a change
would be to have a FOSS lobby that gets Montpelier to both broadly adopt FOSS 
and offer some kind of
incentive to it's service providers to do same. What're the odds of that 
happening?
(Also, I have still yet to read that Montp is a 'wireless' city.  Wasn't 
summitTech supposed to get that
done? Or did they just quit at the State-house lawn? What's become of 
MontpelierNet and their project?)

So, we focus on small business, that's where it's needed most and can be put to 
best use.
That's where most of our members are already involved and have the best 
potential for persuasion.

Another area of possible prospect might be community television stations, the 
AMO's that run them
and the PEG contributors that provide content.
Six years ago most managers thought I was a wing-nut for promoting FOSS at 
their summit; just
stuff like forums and CMS's to organize around. Now their old-guard (read 
luddites) is changing
and advocates like lauren-glenn davitian are having (measured) success in 
implementation strategies.
(unfortunately, I dont share their optimism for a bright PEG future - but 
that's not a tech issue)

The only remaining question, the fundamental one, is whether we (can) do it as 
a group or not.
The recent FOSSvt expo proved to me that some members prefer going the 
exclusionary route;
which caused me to ask self:  "are we (or some of us) competing among ourselves 
for business
and kudos?"

> 
> Thanks,
> Bradley
> 
just my .02

Rion


-- 
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent 
are full of doubt." - Bertrand Russell

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