Jeezum, I have no problem at all parking on State Street in Montpeculiar. (see the 1806 farm address at 333.) If memory serves, which, admittedly, it doth not often these daze, I've sent my resume to LS at least two or three times and got el zippo in return. Again, understandable; only 12 years in IT. And way too old, obviously. Too bad, though, as they are just a short bus or cah ride to Wottuhberry now. (from Montpeculiar, that is.)
Would they deign to host a VAGUE meeting? I dunno, but that said, wife and I would be more than happy to host one here at the Pavilion Farm (1806: Thomas Jefferson and John Adams were still around and the arch war-criminal Lincoln hadn't even been born.) And, we could do a potluck thang and so forth. No cable TV, but two Windoze XP boxen and a Fedora Core 5 laptop, thus far. New boxen plans underway for more Linux. And we have radio, CDs, cassettes, three genius cats and two dumbass golden retrievers. Did I mention lotsa parking? And as an ex-soldier and ex-cop we have a small arsenal here to prevent interruptions from PHBs and Microslop types; actually, the cats will have disposed of them before we can pull any triggers. Wife is a real upstate NY Irish Catholic character and not bad on the techie stuff herself, despite her field being public health. Red hair, blue eyes, 5'10" and OFF-LIMITS. Daughter is in Brazil so no potential flak from her. Also 5'10", blue eyes and OFF-LIMITS. An email or phone call and we can be in biz-ness. Old Farmer Davy On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Paul Flint <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Forest, > > I take it that you are among the lucky few who work at Logic Supply. > "Congratulations" give my best to both Lisa and Roland Groeneveld. Sadly I > was not able to introduce myself at the Legislative bitch session this > evening. I tried to park on State Street in Mont-peculiar, and spent 15 > minutes getting unstuck from the snow. > > Let me say that I certainly hope that they are not going to the State for > any aid. I believe that they have not been all that helpful to me in my > search for Certification and Accreditation work recently. > > On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, Rion D'Luz wrote: > > Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:26:25 -0500 >> From: Rion D'Luz <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Truth to power - re: Logic Supply >> >> On Tuesday 27 January 2009, Forest Bond wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:59:51AM -0500, Paul Flint wrote: >>> >>>> I would have preferred that Logic Supply be a bit more community >>>> accessible. >>>> >>> >>> I can't necessarily speak for the owners, but I'd be interested in >>> hearing ideas >>> as to how we could improve this perception. >>> >> Well Forest, the best way would be to improve your HR dept to be more >> responsive to job inquiries, specifically after one has gone to the trouble >> of filling out the on-line form and submitting. Waiting weeks before getting >> even some notification of receipt, let alone review, is BS. >> >> > Rion begins with an excellent point, I will attempt to embellish it. > > When I first encountered the Logic Supply organization back in 2006 they > were located near Stowe, and Lisa *was* the HR department. The interview > with Roland involved seeing their marvelous toys, and ended with my > concluding that "These folks are Dutch, and that is the way that they do > business". > > Subsequently, and I suppose, just after the birth of their child, I called > up and suggested that they exhibit at Linux World Boston, I offered to help > with the costs and the booth. Roland demurred saying that Linux was not a > significant part of his Microsoft Windows based sales, OK - his business and > apparently hers. > > On a more general note: I remember back when I visited you that I >> mentioned how nice it would be for if LS had a little display area for its >> products, maybe including some 'touchy-feely', play-with-the-gear demos and >> such. You confirmed what I saw 1st hand: that the company was not really >> oriented to walk-in's beyond the polite attention of the receptionist. LS >> competes w/a s--t-load of others in your domain. >> >> > Couple of years later I had a client with a hot need for a closet server > farm, and I thought of an ITX based beawolf cluster as a serious > possibility. I contacted the sales manager at Logic Supploy, discussed this > potential application and asked if there was any way we could demo a proof > of concept to the client at their site (Portland, Maine). Here is the > response from their sales manager: > > On Fri, 7 Mar 2008, Harold Skorstad wrote: >> >> I've spoken with Roland this morning about your idea, and it's not >>> something we're in a position to entertain. If you want to purchase any of >>> our systems for this data center application you mentioned, you are welcome >>> to do so on our web site. We do not under any circumstances, provide our >>> customers with samples to take on loan, regardless of the situation, that is >>> our policy. >>> >> > Well, from here, things went down hill fast, and the result is that when > they advertised for Linux help recently I sent a letter to Roland basically > asking if I should even bother, conveniently, I never received a reply. > > Now I realize that LS is probably in the 'e-commerce' business >> http://www.logicsupply.com/products/gs_l08?nw=newsletter&ty=1 Logic >> Supply has unveiled what it's calling the world's first case for Via's tiny, >> Linux-compatible pico-ITX motherboard. The fanless Serener GS-L08 is >> equipped with a 2.5-inch hard drive bay and a heat pipe, yet measures only >> 5.8 x 2.0 x 4.3 inches. >> >> > I suppose, now that Logic Supply is vested in the Linux Community, Forest > do you: > > 1. Think that they will ever help forge this community with some community > gatherings such as Rion's "show and tell" (just good business) > 2. Think that Logic Supply could host a VAGUE meeting? > > But there is, I suspect, a fair amount of local biz to be had if the >> company was a little more 'user friendly'. >> >> > These kinds of community activities could do a lot to smooth my ruffled > feathers, because as of right now, not only would I not do business of any > type with Logic Supply, but based upon my unpleasant (and unprofitable) > experience, I would actively recommend that others avoid business with the > firm. I know that this is not polite to say, but it is the truth. > > It sure would be nice to visit LS and have a chance to kick the Serener >> GS-L08 tires and ride it around the block:) But if I can't, then what is my >> impetus to buy your box locally AOT just going online and getting something >> from: >> >> > That said, once again Rion helps with a list of alternative suppliers, > which pleases me. One never knows when an opportunity will arrive. Since > Logic Supply presents no comparable local advantage, this list will come in > damn handy Forest. > > http://www.linutop.com/ >> http://www.handtops.com/ >> http://www.umpcportal.com >> http://www.dualcor.com >> http://www.oqo.com/ >> or a "Damn Small Machine" (DSM) is powered by an 800MHz Via Eden processor >> from >> http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/store/Mini_ITX_Systems >> >> Why not go directly to an overseas manufacturer? >> http://www.picopc.co.uk/ >> http://sttech.co.uk/ >> or a VIA nanobook from Taiwan ( >> http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6873084010.html) >> or a eBox-4300, based on a 300MHz Vortex86SX SoC from Taiwan-based DMP >> Microelectronics >> or s sub-$100 linux thin client ( >> http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS5563564014.html) >> Bangkok-based Norhtec has unveiled a sub-$85 mini-PC claimed to be the >> most affordable Linux thin client system to date. The "ultra-low-power" >> MicroClient JrSX is based on a 300MHz x86-compatible SoC (system-on-chip) >> and includes both CompactFlash and 2.5-inch hard drive storage options, >> along with 10/100Mbps Ethernet networking. >> >> > I just purchased a TomTom based upon John's e*x*c*e*l*l*e*n*t demonstration > at the last VAGUE meeting, and would likely design around this system. > (What do you think Rion?) That said, I look forward to what Logic Supply > can do to ameliorate the feelings I have for the company. > > Or not - it is just business after all... > > Or any of a dozen other companies? >> >> Indeed. > > I have debated in my mind the sending of a copy of this note to the Logic > Supply owners. As they have proven unresponsive to my emails of the past > (see job hunt above), at this time I have chosen to violate my own email > protocol, and ask that Forest get back to me if he, in the spirit of Open > Systems and open deliberation, chooses to forward this message, or if he > wishes me to do so. I suspect that times are tough in tech land and it > might be that Logic Supply would consider turning acquaintances back into > friends, as we will all need as many as we can get in these bad times. Note > that I have gone out of my way to avoid speaking ill of Logic Supply and > expect that they would do the same for me. > > Kindest Regards, > > > > Paul Flint > (802) 479-2360 > > > /************************************ > Based upon email reliability concerns, > please send an acknowledgment in response to this note. > > Paul Flint > Barre Open Systems Institute > 17 Averill Street > Barre, VT > 05641 > > http://www.bosivt.org > http://www.flint.com/home > skype: flintinfotech > Work: (202) 537-0480 > Fax: (703) 852-7089 > > Consilium > gratuitum .~. > valet /V\ > quanti /( )\ > numerantur ^^-^^ >
