On Wednesday 28 January 2009, Rion D'Luz wrote:
> On Wednesday 28 January 2009, Stanley Brinkerhoff wrote:
> > 
> 
> > A friend of mine applied for over 120 jobs in 2006 
> > and received 6 denials, 1 calls, and 1 interview.  Unfortunately its par for
> > the course -- 
> Which is not an excuse! I realize that's the way it is. I accept that, but if 
> a company is
> going to advertise to fill a job then they should allocate the resources 
> necessary to 
> respond in a timely fashion to all respondents; even those who fail the 
> pre-screening filter.
Ok, so here is a perfect example of where accepting the black-hole of 
submission on the part of the
applicants works against the hiring company; taking the issue beyond the point 
of rudeness to one of practical exigency.

I got a call yesterday from a gent in HR at dealer.com.  He inquired as to 
whether my resume had been updated.


Dealer.com has been advertising on craigslist for some time now. I've responded 
to a couple of them.
My method is to c/p the email addr into kmail, including 'request disposition 
notification,  and hit send.
Weeks turn into months, no reply.
At the VTech2.0 jam, I stopped by the dealer.com table and asked why they do 
not respond to submissions.
They told me that, in fact, they do respond to all submissions - which was 
later clarified to mean only 
those submitted through their own dealer.com website. 

I explained the issue to them:
The problem was that the craigslist ads make no mention of "please use our 
website to submit applications" and
their mailserver was never setup to auto-respond directly to submissions with 
some msg like "thanks for your submission,
but you need to apply through our website for it to be validated".

So, everyone who replied to those craigslist postings fell into a hole. If they 
expect no response and dealer.com
is unaware of their glitch then everyone loses. All their efforts to make 
craigslist a resource was wasted
and this has been going on for many months; the results of having no feed-back 
loop on their part combined
with the low or non-existant expectation of a response by the end-user.

I finally got a phone call yesterday from a gent in HR who asked if my resume 
was up2date. 
When I explained above to him he said that he was the one who did the ad copy.
I left my hardcopy cover with the ppl who manned the table at the event, but 
the other info never got 
passed upstream.  Left-hand meet right-hand.

On another note:
Does anyone know of a (physical) game that is analog to say WOW (but not 
shoot-em-up),
 played by any number of users
who can enter/exit any time and do stuff that scores points w/out being either 
a winner or loser?

TIA,
Rion


> 
> 
> > especially with the breadth of resumes the internet brings to 
> > a job (we recently received ~100 resumes over the course of a week for a
> > "director" position within my organization; about three from Vermont; the
> > rest not even remotely relevant).

> Tapping into the Internet as a resource to expand one's reach does not 
> absolve, but should rather increase
> one's need not to be rude. Anthony mentioned harvesting resumes, that, to me, 
> is like spammers but
> in reverse. To think it's perfectly OK w/out honoring the fact that one is 
> dealing with a human being
> who took the time and initiative to respond is a) rude b) short-sighted c) no 
> different than being a spammer
> e) a sad sign of the times
> 



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 by gbjbaanb (229885) Alter Relationship   on Saturday October 24, @09:03AM 
(#29855947)
Its Microsoft's homage to Hunt the Wumpus.
you are in a large entrance hall, corridors sneak off on all directions. Are 
you feeling brave adventurer?
> say "sales and support please"
you are in a marbed atrium, high-vaulted ceilings cross above you. You can see 
a passage way leading downwards into the dark, and a staircase leading upwards.
> say "software support please"
you go down into the darkness, and come out in a labyrinth of passages.
> say "server support please"
you are in a cave with a monstrous tentacled serpent, its tentacles reach out 
towards you.
> say "operating system bugs please"
the tentacles grab you and start to tear you apart. With your last breath you 
hear it murmur "this is sql server support, I can transfer you back to our 
general support department sir"
you are in a large entrance hall, corridors sneak off on all directions. Are 
you feeling brave adventurer?
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