On Thursday 09 April 2009, Nick Floersch wrote: > In terms of Montpelier...
> We'll need to organize... who wants to be an organizer first and a > participant second? Like you mentioned above re: group of 6 - maybe something like a steering committee which could aggregate all the inputs (electronic or face2face) yet still retain some of the organic-ness of the decision-making process. Participants? Suppose that's the 10K ? that keeps 'this thing of ours' alive. Sustaining momemtum and interest. Finding overlapping interests among divergent groups, the meshing of mini-societies (as it were); expanding the tent seemed to be an acceptible attitude at the Alchemist (AOT: isolating ourselves entirely w/in the geek/techie domain). I believe that endurance comes from divergence; that diversity is the ingredient of long-term survival. Can this be apropos to a hackerspace? I would hope so. > > Should we be clear about which VAGUE threads are hackerspace related by > defining thread names be prefixed with "HS:" so that it is easy for folks not > as interested in hackerspace meetings to filter them out? I like the idea of prefixing a lot. Tagging a la Usenet threads:) > > If we become meta organizers of a cross-interest mega-group, which groups > should we be aware of to involve? And where will our meta-portal for group > communication be located? I have a server, but I bet lots of other folks do > too - folks that already have a CMS of some sort installed? I wouldn't worry so much about the later (the netsite) as the former: like internet marketing - cross-sell and up-sell > > Here is Tony's list: Are below groups a listing of .orgs that might want to use the hackerspace for their events, presumably? Or groups for whom some small number might like to hang and do work (or other stuff)? > Vague - Mailing List > Vtsda - Mailing List > .Net - Mailing LIst > SQL Server - Mailing List > Ruby - ??? > PHP - ??? Above, to everyone else, would fall under the "computer guys" label that epitomizes the geek/nerd. But how what the above groups do can be demonstrated to directly apply to the "man in the street" would be an interesting ? Can the .Net folks transcend their own special-interests to bring "added-value" to the entity (or hive)? > Café Scientifique - ??? > Crash collective - ??? > Lamb Alley - ??? Contact through Chad A.? > Woodworkers workshop - ??? > HAM radio club - ??? Contact through Tom C.? > Green Mountain Prospectors - ??? > Local 2600 group - ??? Meeting time listed in back of 2600... > > Any more? Nothing comes immediately to mind, but its a great start. What I would like to see develop from here is conjuncting with Anthony et al on the 1st Project of the Spring, ID it, make it happen, then see what happened and build upon it. Friviolous as it may, and perhaps should be; if prevailing, I'd next like to know if a) the participants would be willing to pony up 5-10 dineros if the Event was held in a non-residential space. b) if our group can hold an Event that does something which captures the interest of a different, preferably non-techie, group; who would stand to benefit, in some way, for the efforts. I think I may have found at least one receptive audience, too early to go into any detail, but "I'm workin the angles as I see them" and right now defining the .org and the vision/mission and management style (i thought i heard a vote for consensus, or sociocratic approach), and revenue model; laying the 1st few bricks, seems still the order of the day. Concurrent Event-building, ala "a Garage Skunk Works", would help tackle the issues from a different direction and contribute to the overall project by providing tangible feedback. Those two elements, combined, would seem to make for auspicious beginnings. Rion > > The people that met on Tuesday were the following: > > Josh S. > Joe E. > Chad A. > Tony C. > Rion D. > Tom C. > Kevin T. > Nick F. > > Josh was taking notes proper. Perhaps he can chime in with some more thoughts? > > Also, everyone that thinks this is a cool idea... pat Kevin T. on the back > when you meet him next time for bringing it up. > > -Nick > > --- > Nicholas Floersch (pr. Floor-sh) > Stone Environmental, Inc. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Vermont Area Group of Unix Enthusiasts > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Carroll > > Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 9:32 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: VT Hackers Meetup > > > > On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 6:29 AM, Marc Farnum Rendino <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > I'm from Hinesburg too, so I'd like to see something there as well. > > :) > > > > Me three! > > > > > Suggestion: Let's think of this as a meta-incubator with the express > > > purpose of creating several local groups. The local groups may indeed > > > come and go as interest/projects change, and that too may be part of > > > the way this is built; the more dynamic the better, especially if > > > there's a stable core. > > > > I don't actually think the economics of a dedicated hacker-space would > > work... a friend of mine seriously looked at putting together > > something like this in Montpelier, and he would have to have at least > > 6 regular 'tenants' at their desks and paying a small fee (couple > > hundred a month) before it would start to be worth the rent. Once you > > have a core like this though... all sorts of casual meetings could > > happen. > > > > Would I would love to see is a monthly get-together / pot luck at > > someone's house for a few hours on a weekend... > > > > Maybe automate their vegetable garden weeding with some > > arduino-powered robots. Or put some temperature, flood water, and > > wine-level sensors in a wine cellar! ;) > > > > A little more expensive than the arduino but wireless is Synapse: > > http://dkc1.digikey.com/us/en/ph/Synapse/EK2100.html The creators > > program it with 100% python, and gave a fantastic talk at PyCon: > > http://us.pycon.org/2009/conference/schedule/event/73/ > > > > In my mind, what we need is some good planning so when we get together > > on a weekend, we have all the plans and parts and people together to > > do some cool stuff. > > > > -Jim > > This communication, including any attachments, is solely for the confidential > use of the person(s) named above. If you have received this communication in > error, please notify the sender immediately and delete/destroy the original. > Any reader other than the intended recipient is hereby notified that any > review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly > prohibited. >
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