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...so great was the pain that Sendmail split open his own head with an axe; and thence sprang forth LISTSERV, fully-formed... ...or something like that. - -sth sam hooker|[email protected]|http://www.noiseplant.com Sorte supernorum scriptor libri potiatur! - ----- Original Message ----- > Dear Stan, > > The guy who wrote Lsoft are over in Maryland somewhere. I met him and > used to remember his name. > > They started Lsoft to run under MVS in support of BITNET. > > Regards, > > Flint > > On Wed, 18 Aug 2010, Stanley Brinkerhoff wrote: > > > Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 01:13:40 -0400 > > From: Stanley Brinkerhoff <[email protected]> > > Reply-To: Vermont Area Group of Unix Enthusiasts > > <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: say it ain't so > > > > Here is why LSOFT knows so much about UVM's mailing lists: > > > > http://www.lsoft.com/lists/lastupd.html > > > > They do indeed have an optional push/pull mechanism to maintain a > > central > > database of mailinglists that are operated by their software. > > > > One might assume 'wa.exe' is the Windows version of 'wa' that runs > > under > > Unix. > > > > It looks like they just upgraded from Windows 2003 to Windows 2008 a > > few > > days ago. http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.lsoft.com > > > > <http://www.lsoft.com/lists/lastupd.html>Stan > > > > On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Rion D'Luz <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> On Tuesday 17 August 2010, Rubin Bennett wrote: > >>> Rion, in your first post, the compatibility for the LSoft listserv > >>> lists > >>> both Linux and Unix. Where's the mystery? > >> > >> Hi Rubin. Thanks for asking; i tried google-searching to find out > >> for > >> myself. > >> > >> The mystery is/was that a supposed unix box is serving .asp/.exe > >> documents > >> and as my > >> post queried: does linux/apache have the capability to do so out of > >> the > >> OSS box AOT the lsoft box? > >> I noticed that lsoft-listserv 1.14 runs/ran on linux hosts though, > >> so i > >> suppose linux runs 1.16 also, > >> does it require/use some kind of a mono module to handle .NET? > >> > >> A bit of reading seems to indicate that lsoft is a big popular > >> package > >> (lotsa functionality) > >> that the school found it appealing over other listserv > >> applications is > >> probably not surprising. > >> In web searching, discovered osdir.org runs it also. Is it > >> suitable for > >> SoHo or mid-sized orgs? > >> > >> So, my original observation, poorly expressed as usual, was > >> noticing the > >> change and being curious about lsoft, in general and > >> about possible trade-off this environment exhibit related to .asp > >> served by > >> linux > >> www.linux.com/archive/feature/53582 > >> compared to straight sendmail/postfix mailman and whether it > >> factors/scales in light of > >> databases, webservers, and specially proxying for clustered/NATted > >> hosts. > >> > >> apache and a dso (mod_mono? - > >> http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page) > >> or is it apache tomcat running java servlets (eclipse)? > >> > >> I'd be curious to know why UVM decided to drop mailman (or was it > >> majordomo?) and go with lsoft (classic?). > >> Was it more related to sub-clustering, maybe db overhead, or just a > >> matter > >> of a better application's > >> UI accessibility/ease of use. > >> Does this listserv reside on same host(s) as SMTP? an AFS/GFS > >> mount-point? > >> > >> I thought I preferred a 'thin' mailman; just a bunch of > >> cgi-scripts, low > >> overhead on port 80 if it has to > >> be on the same host as 25/110/587/993. > >> Despite being fw'd to one remote host, thinking about it, i'm > >> gonna remove > >> apache from mail*.* in favor of lighthttpd > >> or similiar, since its only accessed by one proxy for mailman > >> users. > >> I've always setup mailman and sendmail on same host, but am curious > >> whether > >> its possible for mailman to access remote smtp host. > >> > >> wget > >> http://www.lsoft.com/manuals/16.0/install/LISTSERV16.0_InstallManual_UNIXSimplified.pdf > >> LISTSERV Free Edition for Unix > >> That pdf is rather terse. Choose DBMS, compile, setup web interface > >> and > >> cgi-bin and go. > >> Next, please choose which DB modules to link with. > >> OCI? (Requires that SQL*Net is installed on the local machine.) > >> [y/n] n > >> DB2? (Requires that DB2 be installed on the local machine.) [y/n] n > >> UODBC? (Requires that unixODBC be installed on the local machine. > >> DB2 must > >> be disabled.) [y/n] n > >> wget > >> http://www.lsoft.com/manuals/16.0/install/LISTSERV16.0_InstallManual_UNIX.htm > >> > >> For Sendmail, see the Telling Sendmail about LISTSERV section. > >> For Postfix, see both the Sendmail section and the Telling Postfix > >> about > >> LISTSERV section. > >> For qmail, see the Telling qmail about LISTSERV section. > >> > >> Are you guys able to run mySQL via ODBC? Or do you run Oracle? > >> > >> Anyhow, I was just being curious and another 45 minutes of > >> web-sniffing > >> didn't yield much by way of answers. > >> > >> > >> Rion > >> > >>> > >>> R > >>> > >>> Rubin Bennett > >>> rbTechnologies, LLC > >>> 1970 VT Route 14 South > >>> East Montpelier, VT 05651 > >>> > >>> (802)223-4448 > >>> http://thatitguy.com > >>> > >>> "Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so > >>> too." > >>> Voltaire, Essay on Tolerance > >>> French author, humanist, rationalist, & satirist (1694 - 1778) > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> email: riondluz_at_gmail.com > >> web: http://dluz.com/ > >> AIM/Jabber/Google: riondluz > >> Phone: 802.644.2255 > >> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/6/126/769 > >> > >> CLI forever! > >> > >> L I N U X .~. > >> Choice /V\ > >> of a GNU /( )\ > >> Generation ^^-^^ > >> POSIX > >> RULES > >> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >> > > > > Kindest Regards, > > > > Paul Flint > (802) 479-2360 > > > /************************************ > Based upon email reliability concerns, > please send an acknowledgment in response to this note. > > Paul Flint > Barre Open Systems Institute > 17 Averill Street > Barre, VT > 05641 > > http://www.bosivt.org > http://www.flint.com/home > skype: flintinfotech > Work: (202) 537-0480 > > Consilium _ > gratuitum .~. 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