Hi,

On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 09:14:44AM -0500, Forest Bond wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 08:24:24PM -0500, Anthony Carrico wrote:
> > On 12/17/2014 05:50 PM, Forest Bond wrote:
> > > I'm wondering what sort of issues you are running into?
> > 
> > Unfortunately, I haven't been keeping notes. I assumed some WM would
> > just work, but apparently Linux is lagging in this area, or my config is
> > just bad, or my Arch-fu is lacking.
> > 
> > I'm going to grab that computer... I actually had a bunch of things
> > running on different virtual terminals. Not to pick on KDE, but it looks
> > like plasma-next happens to be up front, so I'll just play around a little:
> > 
> > [...]
> 
> Okay, yeah, sounds like you are facing what I would say are the expected
> problems (i.e. as opposed to driver issues, calibration issues, etc.).
> 
> Most current-generation desktop user interfaces are not designed with touch
> input in mind so e.g. buttons are too small/close to the edge of the screen,
> right click is required to access critical features, etc.
> 
> Also, handling common touch gestures (drag panning, pinch zooming) requires 
> each
> application to implement support.  This is subject to the usual problems of 
> the
> open-source world -- immature and fragmented supporting infrastructure, from 
> the
> kernel, to the X server, to the libraries/toolkits.
> 
> As usual, the burden of sorting this out for users ultimately falls on the
> distros, who are for the most part not well equipped to face the challenge.  
> So
> your experience will vary a bit from one distro to the next.  Ubuntu did do a
> lot of work to try and be touch friendly as far back as 12.04, but to say this
> effort was a success on the desktop would be a stretch.
> 
> I haven't tested newer versions much but I would not guess the situation is a
> ton better.  You would probably have a much better experience if you installed
> the tablet version but that is not a process that is geared toward end users
> (not that you are a typical end user but expect it to be a lot of work) and 
> if I
> had to guess there's probably a good chance your hardware would not all be
> supported (this is only speculation, I haven't really played with it).
> 
> So long story short, I would say in the next few years the Wayland transition
> will make this situation a lot better, but as usual, by the time it's working
> you'll be using features that have been common on proprietary OS's for 5 or 10
> years already, and it will still be buggy. ;)
> 
> Of course most of this is based on a 2012 era understanding of touch support 
> on
> Linux.  Maybe there is an imminent miracle that I am unaware of.

I should probably have summarized this a bit better.  My recommendation is that
if you want a good experience on a tablet (or tablet-like device) you shoud use
an OS designed for tablets. :)

Thanks,
Forest
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