Who is Gopal...sorry if i could not place you. I first saw your name in Font Subu's fwd. Yeah where is that MNS ka bachcha. Anyway welcome to the group, Gopal and thanks for your participation. Arch
On 11/28/08, Gopal Nadar - Mulund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > *We have have a good understanding and treaty made with Israel on > training Indian inelligence officers of ATS / Armed forces etc etc , send > them to Israel for training quite often.....* > ** > *This kind of Indian Intelligence will not run India for too long........ > abunc of 100 terrorists taking Mumbai for Ransom.....* > ** > *Now where are the Politicians who were taking about driving UP & Bihar's > Bhaiyaaa's out of Mumbai...... ?????* > ** > *Not heard from them for too long !!!!!!!!!!!* > ** > *Saley Gharme Chup Gaye Sub ke Sub.....* > ** > ** > ** > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Nayan Mapani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Friday, November 28, 2008 11:59 AM > *Subject:* Re:Stop the Menace!!!! > > > I changed the headline, it is not the Mumbai shootings, in fact a war. > How else would you justify battalions of NSG commando's flown from Delhi, > Navy commando's, IAF helicopters, Rapid action force personnels and around > 800 police men manning the three important buildings! > > Well, Subu it is a very good suggestion to start thinking about ways and > means to prevent such a situation in future!!! It is so very evident that > resources are not at large for putting things in perspective but what we > lack is basic planning and a political will to stop this!! I dont understand > why is it so difficult to avert such situations? I mean we have an example > in front of us, U.S mein ek parinde ne bhi per nahi mara after the 9/11, U.K > has had no terror casualties after the train blasts, remember they foiled > the attempt of the indian born mujaideens at Glasgow airport! Why cant we > follow their foot steps, we do follow them for all other things but why not > for this! I keep hearing and reading the news that there was a warning > issued long time back about the porous sea borders and Narendra Modi went on > to add that he had already stated this long time back. I mean what the hell > are we doing, if these politicians know the possible threat zones and they > still want to sit and pass the buck I must say only GOD save this > country!!!! This is as good as knowing about the crime and keeping mum which > is punishable under the IPC! How can you just keep quiet?????? To my mind, > the first thing what should be done is to withdraw all the security men > from these politicians! All the politicians are so rich even officially that > they can afford to have their own security men! They can travel in their > bullet proof cars and wear bullet proof jackets if they are so concerned > about their safety! Why should public pay for their safety when they care a > damn about ours! Increase the salaries of all the police men, army,security > agencies and give them performance based bonuses! Every time they foil a > plausible terrorist attack they should be rewarded and if they fail in their > attempt they should be penalised and sacked if needed.Increase the force, > give them the power, choose the right candidates for the right spot and no > politician will decide about their appointment or their transfers. It should > be decided by the judiciary, high court judges preferrably. Invest in the > technology, equipments and instruments needed to prevent such attacks! > Security cameras on each and every street of all the cities, not alone > railway stations or airports! Security cameras inside the police stations > and it should be connected to the local cable operators, every citizen has > the right to know whether the Policemen whom we actually trust our lives > upon discharge their duties efficiently or not! Make them accountable at > every stage, all court proceedings should be aired live too! There should be > a body of intellectual ppl formed above this level whose job is to keep a > tab on the daily proceedings and they must report to the local news channels > about the number of incidents that take place in their jurisdiction. > > > If the politicians need resources to build this secured environment we are > ready to pay more taxes but if they fail they should be sacked instantly and > never be ever allowed to contest any elections!!!! The gist of the matter is > that make each and every public servant accountable at every level! I have > no doubt in my mind that if there is a strong will to set things right no > one can even think of even causing a scratch on us, forget about the > terrorism!!!!!!! > > I dont know how you guys have taken this episode, but i havent been able to > sleep that well! The first thing what comes to my mind is the death of the > ATS chief and i just cant imagine how could we let him die like this. He was > such an upright officer, engineer and an IPS officer to boot! The same holds > true for all the policemen who have laid their lives for this cause! Hats > off to all of them including all the commanders who are involved in flushing > out the terrorists! India has the potential to become the super power by > 2015, forget about 2025 but we got to wake up now and should not let this > episode pass by just like that. This is a big lesson to be learnt, biggest > terrorist attack in the indian history to date, i guess this shold be a good > enough reason for us to actually wake up!!!! JAGO INDIA JAGO before it is > too late. > ------------------------------ > *From:* subramaniam sreenivasan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Friday, 28 November, 2008 3:54:00 AM > *Subject:* RE: Bombay Shootings > > I feel the same anger and frustration as all of you ... > > What do you all think is a solution? I know the answer is not easy, but > what is a good start? > > Are we prepared for real tough terror laws where some innocents will > inevitably suffer for ensuring safety of most of the citizens? Are we > prepared to pay a terror tax for the Mumbai Govt to invest in resources to > prevent and react to terrorist attacks better? > > It is so painful to see the Havaldars taking positions with those big 10 KG > hunting Rifles that can fire only 2 shots. Lifting that thing and > taking aim will take more than a minute. Why can't they be given pistols > with which they can run and react better? > > As a start, security cameras should be put in all key railway stations, > hotels and buildings and be monitored constantly. If need be let the > railways charge 50 paise safety surcharge on every ticket and let the hotels > charge guests Rs 50 a day extra for security. Just a thought .. > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 23:11:11 +0530 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Bombay Shootings > To: [email protected] > > > I can understand the anguish in your language, we are equally pissed off! > These terrorists have been speaking Punjabi and are from Punjab district of > Pakistan! They all came via the porous sea route on the soutern tip of > Mumbai! We had a few guests who have come from South Africa, my wife had > taken them to Canary Caves and Taj for a routine Mumbai Darshan just 2 days > back and these ppl are shell shocked! Yesterday, they had been to Bandstand, > Taj's lands end for refreshments, excatly at the same time so much happened > in south Mumbai! I am so relieved everyone is the same in my set up but > cannot imagine the plight of ppl who have lost their families! My heart goes > out to all those hostages who are holed up still and for our real heroes, > Hemant Karkare, Vijay Salaskar and some more policemen who laid their lives > in the pursuit of bringing safety to citizens! > > I am so disturbed with the P.M and Advani's plans to come to Mumbai and > actually disrupting our army and NSG commondos operations who are doing such > a wonderful job.Remember,everytime a V.I.P comes the entire police force is > behind them to give them security. Why should they be coming here in the > first place! What will they do coming here, enough of politics!!! Someone > should tell them that we dont need them here! Our PM has said that they will > have more stricter terror laws after today, blah blah! What the hell, when > will they think about preventing such incedents! Why do we always react so > late? Enough is enough, Ppl must wake up and start demanding their rights > from these politicians. I can go on and on but then what's the point. Do you > know our fire brigade ppl struggled to get the water till the 5th floor of > the Taj to extinguish the fire. We dont even have the basic infrastructure > in place, bahut ho gaya! Forget about the spirit! We want this menance to > end, ppl should not forget the sacrificies of the brave policemen and army > ppl just like that!!!! I salute them!! > > > > > > ------------------------------ > Color coding for safety: Windows Live Hotmail alerts you to suspicious > email. Sign up > today.<http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_safety_112008%20> > > > > ------------------------------ > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them > now.<http://in.rd.yahoo.com/tagline_messenger_6/*http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/>> > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VaniV88-89" group. 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