On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 22:23 -0700, D. Hilbig wrote:
> It would be nice if the learn-password feature was moved into vpopmail so
> that Courier-Authlib could support the learning.
> 
> I don't really know why people are so keen on Dovecot.  Is it because it is
> part of RH now?  I'm sticking with Courier-IMAP because Dovecot isn't mature
> enough and Courier-IMAP has been good to me in the past. 

The reason for the migration to Dovecot is simple. The performance
improvement, especially on large Maildir's and it consumes a lot less in
the way of resources than Courier does. As to maturity, its extremely
stable and that is really what counts.

Shane


> As for the auto-learning CRAM-MD5, I'm LOL at myself on that one.  I
> understand how CRAM-MD5 works yet I still had a total brain-fart.  Oh
> well...
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 10:00 PM
> To: vchkpw@inter7.com
> Subject: Re: [vchkpw] not auto-learning passwords
> 
> On Apr 14, 2008, at 3:46 PM, D. Hilbig wrote:
> > If I do a plaintext login which will check against the hashed password
> > stored in the SQL table, I can login with any password.  However, a  
> > CRAM-MD5
> > login (which checks against the clear password) with any password  
> > will fail.
> > If both the hashed password and clear password in the SQL table are  
> > NULL
> > (empty), I'd expect the behavior to be the same regardless of CRAM- 
> > MD5 or
> > plaintext.
> 
> 
> IIRC, this was intentional.  It's impossible to learn a password via  
> CRAM-MD5, so we fail until we can learn a password through some other  
> method.
> 
> Password learning happens in vchkpw, but I guess it should move into  
> vpopmail so any app calling the API can have a password "learned".
> 
> And to those who recommend Dovecot, it probably doesn't do learning  
> either, for the same reasons.
> 
> I just checked courier 3.0.8, and it looks like it should update the  
> password...  I checked dovecot 1.0.10, and found this, "Thanks to  
> Courier-IMAP for showing how the vpopmail API should be used".  It  
> doesn't appear to have code that updates the password.
> 
> Unfortunately, there's no way to update libvpopmail to have it learn  
> the password.  We'll have to update the individual apps (courier and  
> dovecot) and get the maintainers to accept the changes into the next  
> release.
> 
> -Tom
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