That is a great help.  Thank you for your time.  I was tasked with finding a 
system to allow students to "reserve" time slots, and at first glance it 
appeared AVCL might be a fit.  It might now be worth it to add this to the mix 
for our PoC and see if we can justify some cost-savings.



On Mar 10, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Aaron Peeler wrote:

> Hello Nate,
> Apache VCL and VMware View are separate solutions. I'm not an expert on View, 
> I've seen the sales rep. demo's etc. So I can only comment from a somewhat 
> biased viewpoint. :) If someone else on the list has more to add on VMWare 
> View that what's here, please do.
> Differences
> Apache VCL is:
> - open source (free)
> - community driven support
> - community driven development
> - built for Edu's by system-admins from Edu's.
> - can provision, virtual machines and bare-metal (using xCAT), existing 
> stand-alone Unix based machines from a lab for non-walkin hours use.
> -not locked into a single hypervisor or vendor.
> supports vmware products (free server, ESXi, ESX), virtual box
> - highly customizable, ability to extend to use other provisioning tools, VCL 
> development roadmap includes kvm support, maybe others
> - ease of scale out - (add more HW)
> - Course block allocations - priority allocations for sets of end-users, 
> courses or workshops, etc
> - Current OS support for win7,winxp,win2003,win2008,ubuntu,CentOS, RedHat, - 
> easy to add more.
> - Audit-able, source is open for tracing
> - cost of entry is low
> - Many more.
> View:
> - Commercial product
> - VMWare support available
> - One benefit I see is the PCoIP protocol. It would do a better job for video 
> streaming and probably CAD programs than remote desktop connection.
> - requires vcenter licensing. ?  $$
> Hope this helps.
> Aaron
> On 3/10/11 10:17 AM, Nathaniel McMullin wrote:
>> We are currently investigating Virtual Labs for our Students.  We'd like to 
>> deploy VMWare View to complement our existing ESX infrastructure which hosts 
>> our servers, and eventually allow for thin clients for our Faculty/Staff.  
>> The short-term, Phase 1, is to allow for more Open Lab space.  With that 
>> said, we need to ensure students can get onto the Virtual Labs and having a 
>> Reservation System would fill this need.
>> Looking at Apache VCL I am wondering if this is simply a separate solution 
>> that would not tie into VMWare View or or Apache VCL simply see VMWare View 
>> as "physical" computers and that's how it would be best to implement.  Does 
>> anyone have experience tying the two together?  Many thanks.
>> -Nate @ UNH (SA).
> -- 
> Aaron Peeler
> Program Manager
> Virtual Computing Lab
> NC State University

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