Hey Marijn, I like the way you think, especially that last sentence.
Drop me a line by email and let's meet up sometime. - Dirk On Dec 2, 3:19 pm, Marijn <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Dirk, > > I'm sorry, I have a lot of trouble with your suggested solution and > your argumentation. > If I wanted to create scripts to enhance my workflow I'd probably not > want to use a GUI in the first place. > And wouldn't you say that the interface is already too cluttered if > comparisons can be initiated from so many places in the app? Who > knows... > I don't know cocoa but my guess is that adding an extra menu "open > with" shouldn't be that hard. > Or adding a menu when you hold down the remote/local changes button > showing you a list of editors to select from. > I find it odd that thus far I'm the only one that has requested this > "feature"/"reported this bug" but I guess there aren't a lot of people > merging since it's not supported from within Versions. > I understand that managing expectations is hard and that development > in general is even harder. > Though IMO I've always gotten the feeling that 1.1 would be a > significant upgrade. > I love the fact that I can organize my bookmarks in folders and the > new timeline view is a big improvement. > But the fact that you still can't switch between "show all" and > "changed" view without losing the way you had expanded folders is > really annoying. > Maybe that's just me but most of the issues that are important > regarding workflow have not yet been resolved which is really too bad > if your waiting a year for an update. > > Again this is starting to look way too much like a rant which is not > why I'm here. Apologies for that, maybe grabbing a beer together would > be a better forum for this discussion :-) > > Kindest regards, > > Marijn > > On Dec 2, 2:09 pm, Dirk Stoop <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hi Marijn, > > > With the many places in the app that let you open a comparison, just > > adding this one 'simple feature' is very hard to do without making > > Versions' interface more complicated. > > > Secondly, so far you're the only person who requested this feature. We > > prioritize the features we implement by which ones – we believe – have > > the biggest impact. > > > This one didn't make the cut primarily for the first reason — we don't > > want to clutter Versions' interface and destroy the best thing about > > Versions, but also for the second. > > > I think the real solution to this particular feature request is > > scriptability, maybe similar to how some apps let you add your own > > scripts to a menu somewhere in the app (complete with keyboard > > shortcuts). That's a major undertaking, and therefore will have to be > > weighed against other 'big features', but it's a lot more appealing to > > me than adding an option to temporarily switch diffing apps for every > > comparison everywhere in the app. > > > I hope this sheds some light on why this 'one simple issue' hasn't > > been 'resolved' in 1.1. > > > Cheers, > > - Dirk > > > the Versions team > > > On Dec 2, 12:15 pm, Marijn <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I'm really disappointed to see that this issue has not been resolved > > > in 1.1 > > > > Was my problem set unclear? > > > To me it seems pretty straightforward that one would love to merge > > > with FileMerge and view changes with Kaleidoscope. > > > > The workflow to support that right now is non-existent at best. > > > > Damn, I hate the fact that I've become such a negative nancy when it > > > comes to Versions... > > > > Kindest regards, > > > > Marijn > > > > On Nov 18, 12:22 pm, Marijn <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > It's not as much the support for Kaleidoscope itself but more for > > > > having the option to switch between filemerge en Kaleidoscope. Using > > > > the former for merging and the latter for viewing changes. > > > > > Anyway, I'm abandoning SVN in favor of Git. This is only a concern for > > > > me on the project I'm about to finish. I merely wanted to point out > > > > the problem set this creates for people that have to merge changes now > > > > and again when they use Kaleidoscope. > > > > > Kindest regards, > > > > > Marijn > > > > > On Nov 17, 9:27 pm, Rob Rye <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I have licenses for both. I don't really see any significant > > > > > difference in the support for using Kaleidoscope in Cornerstone as > > > > > compared with Versions. > > > > > > Rob > > > > > On Nov 17, 2010, at 8:03 AM, Marijn wrote: > > > > > > > My trial copy of CS expired so I cannot confirm for 100% but as I > > > > > > remember it has a "Compare with" option on a per file bases. > > > > > > > Exactly what we need in Versions... > > > > > > > On Nov 8, 10:04 pm, Dirk Stoop <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> Maybe I'm missing something, but exactly how does Cornerstone have > > > > > >> better support for Kaleidoscope than Versions? > > > > > > >> Thanks, > > > > > >> - Dirk > > > > > > >> On Oct 28, 7:44 pm, Marijn <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >>> Funny, the competition has better support for using Kaleidoscope > > > > > >>> than > > > > > >>> Sofa itself... > > > > > > >>>http://www.zennaware.com/cornerstone > > > > > > >>> On Oct 17, 4:49 pm, Quinn Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >>>> Don't assume it won't be in the future. This email group is not > > > > > >>>> the only way to get the devs' attention, or to judge what will > > > > > >>>> and won't be supported. Check out the FAQ and email them > > > > > >>>> directly here: > > > > > > >>>>http://www.kaleidoscopeapp.com/support > > > > > > >>>> - Quinn > > > > > > >>>> On Oct 17, 2010, at 5:40 AM, Marijn wrote: > > > > > > >>>>> Well I take it this is not supported and given the lack of team > > > > > >>>>> response it won't be in the future either... > > > > > > >>>>> On Oct 11, 7:08 pm, Quinn Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >>>>>> It's true, no merge on the feature list. > > > > > > >>>>>>http://www.kaleidoscopeapp.com/ > > > > > > >>>>>> Notice the emphasis on *spotting* changes quickly. Merge is > > > > > >>>>>> not yet supported, but I imagine it will have to in order to > > > > > >>>>>> survive and thrive amid competitors which *do* support merging. > > > > > > >>>>>> - Quinn > > > > > > >>>>>> On Oct 11, 2010, at 9:58 AM, pSouper wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>> really? Kaleidoscope doesn't merge? what good is a diff tool > > > > > >>>>>>> that > > > > > >>>>>>> can't merge? i'd be surpised and shocked i it didn't allow > > > > > >>>>>>> you to > > > > > >>>>>>> merge files - i've just bought it but haven't got around to > > > > > >>>>>>> opening > > > > > >>>>>>> yet so i'd go as far as being discussted... i'm popping off > > > > > >>>>>>> to test it > > > > > >>>>>>> now. > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Oct 6, 6:43 am, Marijn <[email protected]> > > > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > >>>>>>>> *cough* > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Sep 29, 5:17 pm, Marijn <[email protected]> > > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> I'm having a little workflow problem with Kaleidoscope. > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Unfortunately Kaleidoscope doesn't have merge support > > > > > >>>>>>>>> (WTF????). > > > > > >>>>>>>>> I often need to merge changes, so I'll have to do that with > > > > > >>>>>>>>> good ol' > > > > > >>>>>>>>> filemerge. > > > > > >>>>>>>>> How do I switch easily between filemerge and kaleidoscope > > > > > >>>>>>>>> as diff > > > > > >>>>>>>>> viewer from the interface in Versions? > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Going into the preference pane every time seems a bit > > > > > >>>>>>>>> cumbersome... > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Kindest regards, > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Marijn > > > > > > >>>>>> smime.p7s > > > > > >>>>>> 4KViewDownload > > > > > > >>>>> -- > > > > > >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > > > > >>>>> Google Groups "Versions" group. > > > > > >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > > > >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > >>>>> [email protected]. > > > > > >>>>> For more options, visit this group > > > > > >>>>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en. > > > > > > >>>> smime.p7s > > > > > >>>> 4KViewDownload > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > > > Groups "Versions" group. > > > > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > > [email protected]. > > > > > > For more options, visit this group > > > > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Versions" group. 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