Hey Jorde, Good point, I'd love to set up a Versions users meetup in Amsterdam.
Anyone else interested? - Dirk On Dec 2, 6:09 pm, Jorde Vorstenbosch <[email protected]> wrote: > Dirk, > > I dislike the way you think, > Why are you excluding others from this beer drinking event? > > Jorde > > P.s I still have to get version 1.1 and check it. > > On 2 dec. 2010, at 17:57, Dirk Stoop <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hey Marijn, > > > I like the way you think, especially that last sentence. > > > Drop me a line by email and let's meet up sometime. > > > - Dirk > > > On Dec 2, 3:19 pm, Marijn <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Dirk, > > >> I'm sorry, I have a lot of trouble with your suggested solution and > >> your argumentation. > >> If I wanted to create scripts to enhance my workflow I'd probably not > >> want to use a GUI in the first place. > >> And wouldn't you say that the interface is already too cluttered if > >> comparisons can be initiated from so many places in the app? Who > >> knows... > >> I don't know cocoa but my guess is that adding an extra menu "open > >> with" shouldn't be that hard. > >> Or adding a menu when you hold down the remote/local changes button > >> showing you a list of editors to select from. > >> I find it odd that thus far I'm the only one that has requested this > >> "feature"/"reported this bug" but I guess there aren't a lot of people > >> merging since it's not supported from within Versions. > >> I understand that managing expectations is hard and that development > >> in general is even harder. > >> Though IMO I've always gotten the feeling that 1.1 would be a > >> significant upgrade. > >> I love the fact that I can organize my bookmarks in folders and the > >> new timeline view is a big improvement. > >> But the fact that you still can't switch between "show all" and > >> "changed" view without losing the way you had expanded folders is > >> really annoying. > >> Maybe that's just me but most of the issues that are important > >> regarding workflow have not yet been resolved which is really too bad > >> if your waiting a year for an update. > > >> Again this is starting to look way too much like a rant which is not > >> why I'm here. Apologies for that, maybe grabbing a beer together would > >> be a better forum for this discussion :-) > > >> Kindest regards, > > >> Marijn > > >> On Dec 2, 2:09 pm, Dirk Stoop <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> Hi Marijn, > > >>> With the many places in the app that let you open a comparison, just > >>> adding this one 'simple feature' is very hard to do without making > >>> Versions' interface more complicated. > > >>> Secondly, so far you're the only person who requested this feature. We > >>> prioritize the features we implement by which ones – we believe – have > >>> the biggest impact. > > >>> This one didn't make the cut primarily for the first reason — we don't > >>> want to clutter Versions' interface and destroy the best thing about > >>> Versions, but also for the second. > > >>> I think the real solution to this particular feature request is > >>> scriptability, maybe similar to how some apps let you add your own > >>> scripts to a menu somewhere in the app (complete with keyboard > >>> shortcuts). That's a major undertaking, and therefore will have to be > >>> weighed against other 'big features', but it's a lot more appealing to > >>> me than adding an option to temporarily switch diffing apps for every > >>> comparison everywhere in the app. > > >>> I hope this sheds some light on why this 'one simple issue' hasn't > >>> been 'resolved' in 1.1. > > >>> Cheers, > >>> - Dirk > > >>> the Versions team > > >>> On Dec 2, 12:15 pm, Marijn <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> I'm really disappointed to see that this issue has not been resolved > >>>> in 1.1 > > >>>> Was my problem set unclear? > >>>> To me it seems pretty straightforward that one would love to merge > >>>> with FileMerge and view changes with Kaleidoscope. > > >>>> The workflow to support that right now is non-existent at best. > > >>>> Damn, I hate the fact that I've become such a negative nancy when it > >>>> comes to Versions... > > >>>> Kindest regards, > > >>>> Marijn > > >>>> On Nov 18, 12:22 pm, Marijn <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>> It's not as much the support for Kaleidoscope itself but more for > >>>>> having the option to switch between filemerge en Kaleidoscope. Using > >>>>> the former for merging and the latter for viewing changes. > > >>>>> Anyway, I'm abandoning SVN in favor of Git. This is only a concern for > >>>>> me on the project I'm about to finish. I merely wanted to point out > >>>>> the problem set this creates for people that have to merge changes now > >>>>> and again when they use Kaleidoscope. > > >>>>> Kindest regards, > > >>>>> Marijn > > >>>>> On Nov 17, 9:27 pm, Rob Rye <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>> I have licenses for both. I don't really see any significant > >>>>>> difference in the support for using Kaleidoscope in Cornerstone as > >>>>>> compared with Versions. > > >>>>>> Rob > >>>>>> On Nov 17, 2010, at 8:03 AM, Marijn wrote: > > >>>>>>> My trial copy of CS expired so I cannot confirm for 100% but as I > >>>>>>> remember it has a "Compare with" option on a per file bases. > > >>>>>>> Exactly what we need in Versions... > > >>>>>>> On Nov 8, 10:04 pm, Dirk Stoop <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>> Maybe I'm missing something, but exactly how does Cornerstone have > >>>>>>>> better support for Kaleidoscope than Versions? > > >>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>> - Dirk > > >>>>>>>> On Oct 28, 7:44 pm, Marijn <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> Funny, the competition has better support for using Kaleidoscope > >>>>>>>>> than > >>>>>>>>> Sofa itself... > > >>>>>>>>>http://www.zennaware.com/cornerstone > > >>>>>>>>> On Oct 17, 4:49 pm, Quinn Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> Don't assume it won't be in the future. This email group is not > >>>>>>>>>> the only way to get the devs' attention, or to judge what will and > >>>>>>>>>> won't be supported. Check out the FAQ and email them directly here: > > >>>>>>>>>>http://www.kaleidoscopeapp.com/support > > >>>>>>>>>> - Quinn > > >>>>>>>>>> On Oct 17, 2010, at 5:40 AM, Marijn wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>> Well I take it this is not supported and given the lack of team > >>>>>>>>>>> response it won't be in the future either... > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 11, 7:08 pm, Quinn Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> It's true, no merge on the feature list. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.kaleidoscopeapp.com/ > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Notice the emphasis on *spotting* changes quickly. Merge is not > >>>>>>>>>>>> yet supported, but I imagine it will have to in order to survive > >>>>>>>>>>>> and thrive amid competitors which *do* support merging. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Quinn > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 11, 2010, at 9:58 AM, pSouper wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> really? Kaleidoscope doesn't merge? what good is a diff tool > >>>>>>>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>>>>> can't merge? i'd be surpised and shocked i it didn't allow you > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>> merge files - i've just bought it but haven't got around to > >>>>>>>>>>>>> opening > >>>>>>>>>>>>> yet so i'd go as far as being discussted... i'm popping off to > >>>>>>>>>>>>> test it > >>>>>>>>>>>>> now. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 6, 6:43 am, Marijn <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *cough* > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 29, 5:17 pm, Marijn <[email protected]> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm having a little workflow problem with Kaleidoscope. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately Kaleidoscope doesn't have merge support > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (WTF????). > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I often need to merge changes, so I'll have to do that with > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good ol' > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filemerge. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do I switch easily between filemerge and kaleidoscope as > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> diff > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> viewer from the interface in Versions? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Going into the preference pane every time seems a bit > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cumbersome... > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindest regards, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marijn > > >>>>>>>>>>>> smime.p7s > >>>>>>>>>>>> 4KViewDownload > > >>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the > >>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "Versions" group. > >>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. > >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group > >>>>>>>>>>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en. > > >>>>>>>>>> smime.p7s > >>>>>>>>>> 4KViewDownload > > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>>>>> Groups "Versions" group. > >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>>>>> [email protected]. > >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group > >>>>>>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Versions" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Versions" group. 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