Roger, Rodger
There will have to be multiple themes for hooks, like I showed on the list-
'dry-fly/wet-fly group'. This could be narrowed down to trout-fly, panfish,
midge, small salt, large salt, etc.
I mentioned that I would also joinn a saltwater hook swap. By extension, you
could create a warm-water hook swap. There could also be a spinner-blade swap-
whatever. Lure-makers could have a treble-hook swap, and so on. They also
carry beads.
It would just take some organizing, planning, and a meister for each swap, who
should, in my estimation, get his/her hooks for free (the tips) for their
efforts to divide and ship.
This is not a once-only deal. It could become an economical VFB trend for the
future.
Like I said, the Whiting saddle co-op swap was the model, and it worked very
well. Everyone was satisfied and got what they wanted, and there were many
Whiting co-ops after the 1st trial run.
DonO
----- Original Message -----
From: Rodger Oleson
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Hook Co-op swap like the Whiting Co-op swap- suggestion
Don, Sounds like you or Bugs or someone has done quite a bit of thinking
about this hook swap idea. I'm curious how you will ever get ten people to
agree on the size and type of hooks to get. I'm mostly a warm water
fisherman(8-10-12 or larger hooks) and really have little use for 14-18's
except on special occasions when I'm tying for a swap. Trout fishermen(prolly
a bunch of them around)might not be interested in size 8 or larger. Is this
something the individuals will decide and then trade whatever size type of hook
they want to buy to the other folks for the size/type of hook they decide to
buy, or are you hoping for some kind of group consensus on sizes and types?
Just wondering :-\
Rodger
Don Ordes wrote:
GANG,
The dry-fly hooks I'm looking at are priced @ $30.71 per 1000. General
hook prices range for different styles from $20 to $60 per 1000. The $60 ones
(per 1000) are the long sweep nymph-hooks in the #4 size, which would be
expected. I think the most expensive I see are #1 long streamer hooks @ $0.12
per hook. They are provided by Larva-Lace, so it's not some fly-by-night
company.
That's rediculously inexpensive @ .03 to .06 cents per hook. Grab your
calculators, these are inexpensive, but they have to be bought in bulk.
Bags of 25 hooks are $3.50 or more at the shops, which is 1.75 cents per
hook & up.
If someone could meister a swap similar to the co-op swap for the Whiting
hackles like we did, then each person could buy a $30+/- bag (avg. cost) of
hooks. Ten people could join and buy a pre-perscribed bag- size and style,
from a most used/wanted list. Depending on how many hooks you need, you could
buy in at more than one group. Then the meister could divide the bags into
tenths and we'd each have 100 each of 10 different size hooks for $40* (total
cost).
1. The meister would need to be someone with some time on his/her hands
that has the time to count out or weigh out the hooks. An accurate postage
scale would be sufficient to divide hooks out by weight rather than count, and
that would save a lot of time. The scaled counts may be a couple of hooks off,
but at .03 cents a hook, who cares? Boxes of 100 hooks used to be off by that
much.
2. Each person would buy a hook per size from Hagen's and drop-ship them
to the meister.
*3. Each person will send postage for the weight (to e determined after
divvying one group up) of the selection in a SASE envelope plus 10 small
baggies to make it easier on the meister. They could include a tip for the
meister for his/her efforts. A $3 tip from nine swappers would pay the
meister's hooks off as a payment for the efforts. So add $3 + $2 S&H, + $35
for the hooks, and the investment would be $40.
So a $40 investment will net you 1000 hooks of 100 each of 10 sizes.
That's a lot of hooks to tie up. That's .04 cents per hook. As swapmeister,
you'd get your hooks for almost free for your investment in time. You may,
although, get called strange names, being a hookermesiter.
Any thoughts? Suggestions? If you are still on the list, this is where
the VFB has been an opportunity in the past- bulk buying strength. The Whiting
co-op swaps were very successful. Now that Byard is no longer involved, we are
not competing against his shop, or else this would go through him for some
profit to him.
If you all order a catalog with your hook purchase, this hook swap may just
be the beginning of bulk-swaps as they offer all kinds of stuff at whole-sale
prices. I called Hagen's and they are fine with this arrangement.
I'd also join up for a saltwater hook swap.
Lure-makers take note as the catalog has much for you. You could set up a
lure-component swap and get bulk material prices even tough you are not a
retail shop.
Fresh-water dry-fly/wet-fly group: (hooks to be determined: dry-fly,
wet-fly, egg, scud)
1. DonO
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10. SWAPMEISTER: (Chuck? Your re-coup time could be measuring hooks and
get free hooks)
DonO
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Zieger
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Hooks and materials
I got mustad hooks from them before but have not tried anything they have
latgely.
Rick
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From: Don Ordes <f...@tribcsp.com>
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 6:36:12 PM
Subject: [VFB] Hooks and materials
Has anyone bought any hooks, materials, etc. from an outfit called
Hagen's?
They have a great price on an off-brand of Japanese fly-hooks, but I
would like to know if someone has tried these before.
DonO
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