Let me take another look at the web site tomorrow, took a quick tour and
they do look good. I knew Lava Lace was sold last year and have now
refound the source ;-)
But I do find the idea of a swap good and will offer to meister, I have
a good scale for the job.
Peggy B
Don Ordes wrote:
*GANG,*
The dry-fly hooks I'm looking at are priced @ $30.71 per
*1000*. General hook prices range for different styles from $20 to $60
per 1000. The $60 ones (per 1000) are the long sweep nymph-hooks in the
#4 size, which would be expected. I think the most expensive I see are
#1 long streamer hooks @ $0.12 per hook. They are provided by
Larva-Lace, so it's not some fly-by-night company.
That's rediculously inexpensive @ .03 to .06 cents per hook. Grab your
calculators, these are inexpensive, but they have to be bought in bulk.
Bags of 25 hooks are $3.50 or more at the shops, which is 1.75 cents per
hook & up.
If someone could meister a swap similar to the co-op swap for the
Whiting hackles like we did, then each person could buy a $30+/- bag
(avg. cost) of hooks. Ten people could join and buy a pre-perscribed
bag- size and style, from a most used/wanted list. Depending on how
many hooks you need, you could buy in at more than one group. Then the
meister could divide the bags into tenths and we'd each have 100 each of
10 different size hooks for $40* (total cost).
1. The meister would need to be someone with some time on his/her hands
that has the time to count out or weigh out the hooks. An accurate
postage scale would be sufficient to divide hooks out by weight rather
than count, and that would save a lot of time. The scaled counts may be
a couple of hooks off, but at .03 cents a hook, who cares? Boxes of 100
hooks used to be off by that much.
2. Each person would buy a hook per size from Hagen's and drop-ship
them to the meister.
*3. Each person will send postage for the weight (to e determined after
divvying one group up) of the selection in a SASE envelope plus 10 small
baggies to make it easier on the meister. They could include a *tip*
for the meister for his/her efforts. A *$3 tip* from nine swappers
would pay the meister's hooks off as a payment for the efforts. So add
$3 + $2 S&H, + $35 for the hooks, and the investment would be $40.
So a $40 investment will net you *1000 hooks* of 100 each of 10 sizes.
That's a lot of hooks to tie up. That's .04 cents per hook. *As
swapmeister, you'd get your hooks for almost free for your investment in
time.* You may, although, get called strange names, being a hookermesiter.
Any thoughts? Suggestions? If you are still on the list, this is where
the VFB has been an opportunity in the past- bulk buying strength. The
Whiting co-op swaps were very successful. Now that Byard is no longer
involved, we are not competing against his shop, or else this would go
through him for some profit to him.
If you all order a catalog with your hook purchase, this hook swap may
just be the beginning of bulk-swaps as they offer all kinds of stuff at
whole-sale prices. I called Hagen's and they are fine with this
arrangement.
I'd also join up for a saltwater hook swap.
*Lure-makers* take note as the catalog has much for you. You could set
up a /lure-component swap/ and get bulk material prices even tough you
are not a retail shop.
*Fresh-water dry-fly/wet-fly group: *(hooks to be determined: dry-fly,
wet-fly, egg, scud)
1. DonO
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10. *SWAPMEISTER:* (Chuck? Your re-coup time could be measuring hooks
and get free hooks)
DonO
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Rick Zieger <mailto:rdzieg...@yahoo.com>
*To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:09 PM
*Subject:* Re: [VFB] Hooks and materials
I got mustad hooks from them before but have not tried anything they
have latgely.
Rick
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*From:* Don Ordes <f...@tribcsp.com <mailto:f...@tribcsp.com>>
*To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Wed, July 14, 2010 6:36:12 PM
*Subject:* [VFB] Hooks and materials
Has anyone bought any hooks, materials, etc. from an outfit called
Hagen's?
They have a great price on an off-brand of Japanese fly-hooks, but I
would like to know if someone has tried these before.
DonO
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