Don is your barrel that short?  Seems like that big of load you would want a
longer barrel.

Mike

On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 5:44 AM, Don Ordes <[email protected]> wrote:

> Tom et al,
> I should have taken a picture of my technicolor thumb-pad on my palm for
> posterity after the 1st time I shot it.  Now it's just a big solid recoil
> pad now sitting at the base of my thumb. Now that I have it toughened up, I
> can fire the big boys off without flinching, but I always wear ear muffs. It
> still hurts the wrist, elbow, and shoulder to shoot more than a few HP
> rounds, though.  I shot my friends .44 mag and it was like shooting a .32
> special.
> He's a pretty stout construction worker and was hurting after the 2nd
> round.
>
> Which is one reason no one wants to carry the pistol except for bears,
> i.e., the kick and the booming report.  Sounds just like my .375 H&H going
> off, only more concussion with the compensators.  At the range, everyone
> stops when I squeeze the 1st one off.  To shoot a bear means you don't have
> time to get hearing protection in, so your ears are gonna ring for weeks to
> come.
>
> Here's a video of what it's like to shoot the 700grain round:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjmtUFrFBc4
>
> It's a brutal and expensive pistol to shoot to get used to the big rounds.
> But once that is accomplished, putting in some light 250-300 grain rounds is
> fun, but still expensive, even if you reload, just not as bad.
>
> DonO
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 7:22 AM
> Subject: AW: Re: [VFB] Bullets- only for those who like guns & hunting-
> OTHERS DELETE
>
>
>
> the only problem I see is the recoil (must be enormus)
> Thomas
>
> ----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----
> Von: jerryp...@comcast.
> net
> Datum: 19.11.2010 13:09
> An: <[email protected]>
> Betreff: Re: [VFB] Bullets- only for those who like guns
> &amp; hunting- OTHERS DELETE
>
>
>
> Larry:
>
> A 230 grain .45 ACP bullet comes out the barrel at around 900 FPS, about
> the
> same as a 250 grain .45 Colt. It's a good man stopper but it would just
> piss off a big bear. Don's got the right idea
> with the .500 S &W. Not something you'd want for concealed carry but good
> in bear country.
>
>
>
> Jerry Caruso
>
> "All
> things considered, I'd rather be in Philadelphia."
>
> ----- "Larry Johnson" < JOHNSOLA @ uvu . edu > wrote:
>
>
> Makes all
> the sense in the world. I wish I was in a financial position to buy a BIG
> FRAME handgun. What would my Springfield
> Armory 1911 .45 ACP do in a bear situation? Any good at all?
> Larry Johnson
>
>
>
>
>
> I've posted photos before of my fly-
> fishing protection in Grizzly country, such as Glacier Park in NW Montana.
> I love bears- just don't want to be mauled
> or eaten alive. Hope I never have to use it.
> So this starts out as fly-fishing related.
> Please respond off
> list ffc @ tribcsp .com
> The list is a little slow, so I though I'd post why I opted for the S&W
> .500 mag.
> over the .44 mag.
> A few weeks ago we were camping and my friend had his 44mag. So we
> target-practiced against a clay
> bank at 80 yards or so. After we shot for a little, he went over and dug
> out a few slugs for comparisons.
> His 44 shot
> 230 grain bullets (left) and mine 550 grain bullets.
> Mine is 10% larger in diameter (.5 vs .44), but doesn't look like
> it because of the radiused shoulder.
> Flip-em over:
> So at almost 2 1/2 times the weight, it mushrooms out to double
> the diameter.
> This will stop even the biggest bear in its tracks, even at full charge
> point-blank range.
> We're
> looking at over 2600# M.E. from a hand-gun carried in a vest holster!
> NOW...
> I thought I'd show you what a real heavy-
> brush dangerous game cartridge looks like.
> This gun is my cousin's, who hunts African Cape Buffalo, the toughest
> animal on earth to put down.
> On the left is a .44 and a .500 (700 grain). On the right is his 4-Bore,
> or, 1000 Nitro
> Express!
> That's NOT black powder, like the old Maharajah's version in India. Over
> 12K in muzzle energy!
> 2200 grain
> bullet at 1600 ft./sec.!
> Heavy gun, has his gun-bearer carry it in a custom sling until the stalk:
> Once they spot the
> old beast, it's time to feed the villagers:
> Some people oppose hunting, but they don't understand Africa. He paid
> $40,000
> for the hunt, which 75% went to the village fund, and the meat direct to
> the villagers.
> In areas without
> tourism, where he hunts, these animals would all be killed by poachers.
> The villagers all become game wardens,
> protecting the resource that feeds them,
> rather than a poacher killing it and making a few hundred dollars for
> himself.
> Please, comments off list.
> DonO
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