I figured the last one would be a B-12 capsule so that if he's still coming
after those first ones, you'd have some extra energy to run like hell ROFL,
Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Ordes" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [VFB] Bullets- Mike - Don't like guns?- DELETE
Mike,
Still fishing related- self defense in bear country. In Glacier Park, the
bears much prefer the Cajun-style Pepper Spray- They'll spray you down to
make you tasty before they munch on ya.
The 700 grain bullet is not recommended in the 4" or shorter unless the
range is fairly point blank.
I keep a 440 grain (hardcast) as the 1st shot- ear-splitting if I shoot over
his head and deadly if I have to shoot it.
Most of the grizzlies have been shot with bean-bags, so they associate the
noise with pain.
The next shot is a 500 jacketed flat point for a 30-yard stopper, the
closest range for a mock charge.
Then a 700 grain point blank to field dress him in mid-charge.
The last two are 500 grain soft points- one in the fur and one for me if all
else fails.
If I were to hunt the .500, I'd opt for the 8" barrel, scope, and just the
CLHPs for 200 yard shots.
Oh, BTW. I bought the NEF Handi-rifle in the 500S&W. Mini elephant gun,
kicks like the dickens.
Got it at cost from a dealer, so it didn't set me back much.
http://www.shootingtimes.com/longgun_reviews/ST_hr500sandwmag/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPwqVC1CQyY
From Ballistic Supply on their Handi-rifle loaded with their 700 grain
hardcast:
"Update news - our 700 gr. Hardcast chronographs at 1600 fps and almost 4000
ft. lbs. of energy."
That is a TKO of 80! And that's double my .375H&H! (In Africa, for
elephant, the min. TKO is 40, which the .375H&H Mag. is, and the only
30cal. allowed.)
Energy/TKO calculator, FYI:
http://handloads.com/calc/quick.asp
Some .500 bullet comparisons:
vs a 30.06 ^
DonO
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Bliss
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [VFB] Bullets- only for those who like guns & hunting-
OTHERS DELETE
Don is your barrel that short? Seems like that big of load you would want
a longer barrel.
Mike
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 5:44 AM, Don Ordes <[email protected]> wrote:
Tom et al,
I should have taken a picture of my technicolor thumb-pad on my palm for
posterity after the 1st time I shot it. Now it's just a big solid recoil
pad now sitting at the base of my thumb. Now that I have it toughened up, I
can fire the big boys off without flinching, but I always wear ear muffs. It
still hurts the wrist, elbow, and shoulder to shoot more than a few HP
rounds, though. I shot my friends .44 mag and it was like shooting a .32
specia
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