Jerry: I see. I'll look at Hobby Lobby next time I go there. I like the idea
of the water based epoxies. And I had forgotten that I have several colors
of Prism colors markers and they have that sharp, tiny point on one end and
the wide tip on the other, which makes them perfect for this type thing.
Chuck
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Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 7:54 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VFB] Foam headed poppers???
Chuck:
You might be able to get it in a craft store. That's where I initially go
mine, but they quit carrying it. The only reason I have some is that a
friend on another list had to quit fly fishing because of health reasons and
decided not to tie anymore and sent me all he had. He lives in Florida so
the stuff might be available down there. You can probably get it on line
also. The stuff I have is called Delta Renaissance Foil. Mother of Pearl.
It's not really necessary. I don't remember the original pattern being more
that white foam with color add with permanent marker. It does had a splash
of sparkle like scales to the fly. If you're tying a bunker or shad
imitation, a silver foil added to the fly gives it that flash you see with
those fish. I'm always leery of Hard as Nails. I used to use it for head
cement and coating my poppers but then noticed a distinct nail polish smell
when I opened my fly boxes. Figure if I could smell it so could the fish.
You can find water based "epoxies" One I use is called "Triple Thick" it
can be thinned with water. It dries quickly and one or two coats should
work for you since you aren't dealing with toothy critters. Another is
called "Liquid Fusion" It's a clear urethane that can be thinned with water.
One more is Seal-Coat Lure and Jig finish, another that can be thinned with
water. There are several glues available in craft stores that can be used
to glue foam. If it dries clear and tacky you can apply a thin coat to foam
and when it's tacky apply the foil. I tend to use just one foam circle for
my popper head, especially the ones I tie for pan fish.
I got hit on the forward cast. I'd been fishing for a couple of hours and
my shoulder was getting tired and it was windy and I ignored the couple of
casts that had already hit my hat. I took a pictures of the ones I've been
using, including the one that hooked me in my ear. As soon as I get them
uploaded to my computer. I'll post them in an e-mail.
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Jerry: I'll try some of the smaller ones as well, because even a bluegill's
main diet is usually made up of minnows, or baby bluegills and other baby
fish. Also, where do you get that film stuff as shown in the video that the
guy laid on top of the sticky side of the peel and stick foam?? Or, is that
really needed?? Seems to me I could make these using plain foam, then glue
it together on the bottom, then paint the outside with a sharpie, then paint
it with Hard as Nails or 5 min. epoxy, and save the peel and stick foam for
the stacked circle popper heads right?? And did you get that in your ear on
a forward cast?? I've had a bunch in my ears from that LOL. First year I
started fishing, I think I had more holes in my ears than I could count.
THAT’S the main reason I try to remember to debarb all my hooks. Chuck
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Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 4:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VFB] Foam headed poppers???
Chuck:
I've tied my Crease Flies down to about 1 1/2 inches. At that size I'll
use 1 mm foam if I can find it. Brad's a member of my salt water club. An
excellent tyer. He does some mean poppers. Back to the Crease flies. I
use a spark plug gauge/gaper to make my triangles. One thing I do a bit
different is when I glue the bottoms together, I'll put a small clamp to
squeeze them. It flattens the foam and creates a bit of a keel. Crease
flies were original designed to imitate an injured peanut bunker and it
floated on its side. It's evolved now to where it floats belly down. Also,
they can be fished off of intermediate or sinking lines. You can plug the
mouth with foam, like when he's adding a rattle in the video or leave it
open. In the last year I've started using articulated shanks instead of a
long shank hook. Tie it the same way, just slip a split ring with the
appropriate sized barbless treble hook onto the loop in the back of the
shank before you add the body. Not sure if you can see it well in the
attached picture, but that's one of them hanging from my ear.
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Jack: Those are neat. Around my neck of the woods, I could do these in the
pattern of either an Alabama Shad, or a Missouri Shiner minnow and the bass
would KILL it, Chuck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbNA1zQoT_g
From: Jack Lehman
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 10:46 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VFB] Foam headed poppers???
To use your metal flake foam, suggest you look at Crease Flies. They're
usually larger, but you can size down to bluegill sized. Lots of how to s
on the web.
Jack
Austiin
On 2/7/2014 1:19 AM, Chuck Alexander wrote:
Folks: I bought a cpl packs of peel and stick 2mm craft foam at Wal mart
tonight. One pack is standard bright colors of red, black, white, green blue
and yellow. Those are 8.8” by 11.8” in size. I plan to stick 4, or 5, or 6
sheets together, then use varous sized bullet casings to “stamp out popper
heads. But then I got a 10 sheet pack, that is half the size of the others,
but they are all beautiful “metal flake” colors on green,red,pink (which I
KNOW will be a killer color as anybody who knows me knows that I have had
great luck with that color), blue,black, white, yellow, gray, orange and
chartreuse.
My question is this?? I know black and yellow make great bumble bee or
yellow jacket wasps colors, but can somebody tell me other colors or combos
they have had good luck with on bluegills??? I also plain to, instead of
wasting the beautiful metal flake ones to stack them all up, say if I want
to make some that are green. And say I want them to be 10mm thick. Instead
of wasting 5 pieces of the metal flake, which costs more and is half the
size, I’ll put metal flake on the rear one and front one, and sandwich in
three pieces of plain green. See what I mean??? But I need ideas on some
combos that have worked. I plan to make a few of each of the solid colors
and just trying those till I see what they are hitting on that particular
day in that particular shade, or sunshine, or time of day etc. But I didn’t
even know they made the stuff in the metal flake till tonight. I think Gray
and black might be good because we have certain beetles that are black, but
have gray colored wings when they spread them out. I think black and green
would be good, because June bugs here are sorta that color combo. But others
I just can’t think of right now. The foam says for ages 3 and up so MAYBE I
won’t hurt myself with it LOL.. Thanks, Chuck
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