I've been able to rope everything so far, even that God-awful stuff Bob sent
me.
Learning the fundamentals is easy with those you mentioned, then graduate to
naturals and tuff stuffs.
DonO

----- Original Message -----
From: Bud Cragar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques


> Don,
>
> I've been rope dubbing with ice dub. What are the requirements for a dub
> that will work with your method?
>
> I assume that the dubbing materials must have long fibers. I see that you
> use squirrel brite and SLF. Any others? I've never used either of these.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bud
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Don Ordes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 9:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques
>
>
> > Rene,
> >
> > If you usually rib counter to the body wrap, you were probably looking
for
> > durability in that the rib was stronger then the body material and kept
> the
> > cut material ends from unwrapping.  When rope-dubbing, especially on a
> wire
> > core, this is not a great threat.
> > So if you want to gold rib a Gold-ribbed Hare's Ear, then just rib with
> the
> > direction of the segments, and between the segments.  If ribbing with
> > tinsel, the segments will help protect the ribbing from being cut by a
> > tooth. Just tie your ribbing on when you tie your dubbing tip to the
hook.
> > The end result is still true to pattern, and tough.
> >
> > Ribbing with wire ( or clear mono) can also give you a few variations if
> you
> > tie in other materials at the bend.  If you tie on a shell-back, you can
> > pull it forwards over the tail and rib over it for a shiny ribbed
stonefly
> > look theat still sports the fuzzy belly.  Or tie a piece of white floss
on
> > and make a white central line up the fly tail, and ribbing it in place.
> >
> > Try roping both a black and an orange rope tied in at the back.  Do a
> > cross-weave with the black on back.  You'll get a fuzzy segmented
> > over-'n-under stonefly body like a bitch creek.  Many possibilities here
> > too.
> >
> > Just a few ideas humbly submitted for your approval.
> >
> > DonO
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Rene Zillmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:38 AM
> > Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques
> >
> >
> > > Don, dd and others,
> > > this discussion was very informative for me. Thanks again.
> > > I rope-dubbed some flies with it and came to one issue. If I rope the
> dub
> > > very tight I run in problems with the ribbing material. I usually rib
> > > counterclockwise (opposite to the tying direction). As the rib cannot
go
> > > into the dub it slips. Recommendations? Or simply: No rope-dub if
> > ribbing..
> > > Regards
> > > Rene/Germany
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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