Don could I get a set of photo's and direction's of these also still need more work, thanks mike kelly
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bob Haering Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 2:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques That is why I thought of you Don :) I mixed it with some clear antron & that blend works very well. Bob H ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Ordes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques > Bob, > If you want to drive people insane, give them this stuff to rope! The key > is getting the fibers linear and overlapping. Once you do that, you > can rope the fly hairy, fuzzy, or clean. I'll send some photos. DonO > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bob Haering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 1:12 PM > Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques > > > > So DonO you going to tell me how to do it? I did warn you that it > > was > some > > nasty stuff! > > > > Bob H > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Don Ordes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 12:48 PM > > Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques > > > > > > > I've been able to rope everything so far, even that God-awful > > > stuff Bob > > sent > > > me. > > > Learning the fundamentals is easy with those you mentioned, then > graduate > > to > > > naturals and tuff stuffs. > > > DonO > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Bud Cragar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 8:48 AM > > > Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques > > > > > > > > > > Don, > > > > > > > > I've been rope dubbing with ice dub. What are the requirements > > > > for a > dub > > > > that will work with your method? > > > > > > > > I assume that the dubbing materials must have long fibers. I see that > > you > > > > use squirrel brite and SLF. Any others? I've never used either > > > > of > these. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Bud > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Don Ordes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 9:46 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rene, > > > > > > > > > > If you usually rib counter to the body wrap, you were probably > looking > > > for > > > > > durability in that the rib was stronger then the body material > > > > > and > > kept > > > > the > > > > > cut material ends from unwrapping. When rope-dubbing, > > > > > especially on > a > > > > wire > > > > > core, this is not a great threat. > > > > > So if you want to gold rib a Gold-ribbed Hare's Ear, then just > > > > > rib > > with > > > > the > > > > > direction of the segments, and between the segments. If > > > > > ribbing > with > > > > > tinsel, the segments will help protect the ribbing from being > > > > > cut by > a > > > > > tooth. Just tie your ribbing on when you tie your dubbing tip > > > > > to the > > > hook. > > > > > The end result is still true to pattern, and tough. > > > > > > > > > > Ribbing with wire ( or clear mono) can also give you a few > variations > > if > > > > you > > > > > tie in other materials at the bend. If you tie on a > > > > > shell-back, you > > can > > > > > pull it forwards over the tail and rib over it for a shiny > > > > > ribbed > > > stonefly > > > > > look theat still sports the fuzzy belly. Or tie a piece of > > > > > white > > floss > > > on > > > > > and make a white central line up the fly tail, and ribbing it > > > > > in > > place. > > > > > > > > > > Try roping both a black and an orange rope tied in at the > > > > > back. Do > a > > > > > cross-weave with the black on back. You'll get a fuzzy > > > > > segmented over-'n-under stonefly body like a bitch creek. > > > > > Many possibilities > > he > > > > > too. > > > > > > > > > > Just a few ideas humbly submitted for your approval. > > > > > > > > > > DonO > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: Rene Zillmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:38 AM > > > > > Subject: Re: [VFB] Don O's Rope Dubbing Techniques > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don, dd and others, > > > > > > this discussion was very informative for me. Thanks again. I > > > > > > rope-dubbed some flies with it and came to one issue. If I rope > > the > > > > dub > > > > > > very tight I run in problems with the ribbing material. I usually > > rib > > > > > > counterclockwise (opposite to the tying direction). As the > > > > > > rib > > cannot > > > go > > > > > > into the dub it slips. Recommendations? Or simply: No > > > > > > rope-dub if > > > > > ribbing.. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Rene/Germany > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
