Don, I have both the DK and the Norevise. They have their own place in tying, I have the Norlander ready to go, I have a bunch of buggers to tie tomorrow. I prefer the Barracuda Jr. for the shows I do. The Norlander is fast for bugger type flies. I use the Auto bobbin on the Norlander and a standard bobbin in the DK. It is the way I like to do it. Please lets not get on another tread that is going to get out of hand. Hope you don't take this message out of context. Maybe I am the one taking it out of context. Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Don Johnson wrote: > Hi Deb, > The amount of time needed to fill a Norlander spool is > negligible; maybe 30 seconds when using a drill and > spooling arbor. If I was concerned about wasting such > little time I'd probabaly not be tying flies. > > As for the cost, yes the bobbins are expensive (the > spools are not so bad) but so are Tiemco ceramic > bobbins. As I said, if you find yourself using the > bobbin holder quite frequently, I haven't found there > to be a better, more efficient way to go back and > forth than with an automatic bobbin. It quickly > respools the thread and helps prevent the threadwraps > on the fly from loosening. Not the only way to "skin > the cat" but the most efficient I have found. > > Currently I have 6 bobbins and 18 spools and I rarely > find myself wanting more or cursing the system because > it takes longer to change colors than with a standard > bobbin. Realistically one would only need one bobbin > ($35.00) and extra spools ($10.00 for a pack of 3). > Still more expensive than a handfull of Griffin or > Matarelli bobbins but with a whole lot more > functionality as well. > > All bobbin-related things considered, it takes me less > time now than it did when I was tying rotary using the > threadpost and having to respool the thread manually > with a standard bobbin. > > And, as an aside, the retail price on a Nor-vise AND a > bobbin kit (bobbin, 3 spools and spooling arbor) is > less than a Barracuda Jr. according to the DK price > sheet I have. > > DJ > > --- Deborah Duran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Don > > And then you can spend all that extra time you saved > > yourself putting all > > your favorite threads onto the only "expensive" > > bobbins that will fit onto > > the Norlander Automatic Bobbin. I forgot you can > > buy another part to help > > you do this with also. With all my favorite colors > > of thread I use I would > > have to buy quite a few of these bobbins. Sorry I > > wasn't sold on that one. > > :0) > > Deb > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Don Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 12:25 PM > > Subject: WAS [VFB] High Dollar Vise, NOW Bobbins > > > > > > > If the bobbin holder is properly aligned it may be > > the > > > case that you do not need a half hitch prior to > > moving > > > the bobbin to the bobbin holder. I tie on a > > Nor-Vise > > > system and the only time I need to use a half > > hitch > > > prior to moving the bobbin to the thread post > > (same as > > > a bobbin holder) is when I tie on hooks with a > > return > > > loop-eye. > > > > > > The other thing I will suggest is that if you are > > > going to tie and really utilize the rotary > > function of > > > the vise (and are moving from the bobbin holder to > > the > > > hook frequently) buy a Norlander Automatic Bobbin. > > The > > > bobbin has a mechanism whereby it automatically > > spools > > > thread back onto the spool when you return from > > the > > > bobbin holder back to the hook. With a standard > > bobbin > > > this has to be done manually, which is not a big > > deal > > > if you don't mind the hassle. The automatic bobbin > > > takes a little getting used-to but, in my opinion, > > is > > > worth the investment if you tie in a rotary > > fashion > > > for a mojority of the time. For more > > > info...www.nor-vise.com. > > > > > > DJ > > > > > > > > > --- Steve Brettell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > -- > > > > The half hitch is what I've been leaving out. > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > > > Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL > > PLUS > > > > for $19.95/year. > > > > > > > > > > http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus&ref=lmtplus > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > New and still under construction: > > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/salmn8r/northwestcountryflies.html > > > > > > Please e-mail direct for scheduling and pricing > > information of fly tying > > presentations and seminars for your club or group. > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more > > > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > ===== > New and still under construction: > http://www.geocities.com/salmn8r/northwestcountryflies.html > > Please e-mail direct for scheduling and pricing information of fly tying > presentations and seminars for your club or group. > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more > http://taxes.yahoo.com/
