Mark, he is not tying a catskill style woodduck wing. He is copying troutmans mallard dun. A fly in which the wings are whole woodduck feathers.
john "mark romero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Scott, there are two ways you can do it, both involve putting the wing on >first. THAT is the first thing you do on that fly. Always wing a Mayfly >FIRST! The only thing different about the two methods is that with one, you >use two feathers, and with the other you only use one. Since you stated your >using a size 12 hook, you'll have to decide. I might use two. Size 12 is >right where you have to decide. I would normally use one feather for >anything smaller than a sizre 12, and two for 12 and above. You DO NOT EVER >leave any stem in the wing when you tye it in/on. You want only barbs. And i >never trim anything out. That's an old method, i find unessesary. With the >two feather method it sure isn't nessesary and with the single >feather......i find that, if you cut your wing out right there's again no >need. Meaning if you have only what you need and no more (stem). Tie the >wing material in, with the tips pointing out over the eye. Make sure it's >secure. Lift the wing up and do as many wraps as needed and no more to get >it standing up. And that does NOT mean making a huge damm in front of the >wing. It means tucking each wrap tightly back into/under the materials until >the wing will stand up the way you want it. You WILL have to do a few >directly in front of of the wing in what would, (if you over did it), appere >to be a damm. Don't do that. The idea is to keep your fly as sparse as you >can, at least until you hackle it. When you go to hackle it, well that's up >to you. But keep your wraps down to a minimum, (while also making a durable >fly) as much as you can. That's the goal. Don't crowd you eye, and leave it >clean up there. Tye your wing in about one third the way back on the hook >shank. That should give you plenty of room to work. Trim your wing butts at >a slant, comming in with your sissors from the rear of the hook. And trim >the butts of your tail to meet with the butts of the wing, and help you to >form a perfect taper to the body. Once your wing is tyed in securly, you >will have to divide it if it's a single feather, and if you used two >feathers, you should of gathered the materials in you fingers with the >feathers front to front, so they will be natrually divided. Use your bodkin >to divide the single feather wing. Figure 8 the left and right materials, >and post both sides of the wings also. This helps in durablility. Keep your >wings at say 10 and 2 o'clock and your fly will look great. Good luck, get >back to me as to how it went. mark.......... > > >>From: "J&A Burbank" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: Re: [VFB] Mayfly Wing Dilemma >>Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 09:26:23 -0800 >> >>Scott, >> �Look a little closer at the picture, there are two identical wings, one >>curves slightly to each side of the fly. They are both hand cut from >>mallard >>flank and then tied upright. Lots of work but produce a very nice wing. >>Just >>leave enough stem at the bottom of each to tie them to the hook shank. I >>hold them at about 45 degree angle and tie them in then I wrap in front of >>them several times to hold them up straight. It's really not all that >>difficult once you've done a couple. >> >>Hope this helps a little. >> >>Jim >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 8:46 AM >>Subject: [VFB] Mayfly Wing Dilemma >> >> >> > Hello everyone >> > Calling all VFB'ers, Calling all VFB'ers come in, come in, beginner tyer >> > has Mayfly wing dilemma Can you help???????. CAR 51 CAR 51 come in come >> > in........ >> > Howdy Gang, well here it is let me set the stage for the question. >> > I am currently in Jeff Frye's Mega Mayfly swap and I am tying my own >> > pattern, I call it a Brown Bomber, it is a cross between a Lucca's foam >> > Hex spinner, and a Dark Hedrickson, It has the Tail of the foam hex >> > spinner and body, head and wings of the Dark Hedrickson. I have >> > everything selected as far as materials go, the material list >> > is................ >> > HOOK- #12 Dry fly 94840 >> > THREAD- 8/0 black >> > TAIL- 2 pcs. of peccary and foam (painted brown with paint pen) >> > BODY- Brown dubbing >> > HACKLE -2 Bicolor hackle black and reddish brown >> > WING - Died ginger wood dock flank feather >> > My dilemma has to do with how do I secure the wing or wings on. Do I tye >> > on 2 separate wings using 2 flanks or split one flank and stand them up. >> > Also do I tye on the wing first or spin the hackle first. I received a >> > JPEG from Jim Burbank showing also a single mallard feather cut and >> > trimmed and tied to stand up. I am really not sure what to do, Any >> > suggestions?. If I tie 2 wings how on earth do you secure them to stay >>in >> > place. I remember a thread last year between Joyce and DonO on this, but >> > now as I reach 40 �that's all I can do is just remember it came up. Ok >> > enough for now.......... >> > Scott Crosby.........(Wanna be Mayfly tier) >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >_________________________________________________________________ >Take off on a romantic weekend or a family adventure to these great U.S. >locations. http://special.msn.com/local/hotdestinations.armx > >
