That�s an amazing survival rate, it's too bad they didn't take.
Hopefully the stream can be recovered and the populations saved

mike

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Niclas Runarsson
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 2:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SV: [VFB] Shocking has its place

Fishing with something else than a rod??? Where's your dignity??? I'm
shocked!!!

;o)

/Nick


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F�r
Jimmy D. Moore
Skickat: den 25 juni 2004 21:40
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�mne: Re: [VFB] Shocking has its place


Electro shocking has its place.  Four years ago, using electro shocking,

we removed and re-located,  5,000 pure bred Rio Grande Cutthroats from 
the Lower Ponil Creek to the Middle Ponil at Philmont Scout Ranch.  The 
South Ponil was in dire straits. The stream was drying up and the flow 
was intermittent, all due to lack of snow melt and rainfall.  The trout 
were making their last stand in spring holes and at the junction of 
feeder streams where there was enough cold water to keep them alive.

 Middle Ponil Creek gets its flow out of the Val Vidal wilderness area 
and is 10 feet at its widest and has a much better flow and insect 
population than the South Ponil.  The area we moved them into on the 
Middle Ponil had been poisoned  over a two-mile stretch and had weirs 
placed at both ends to prevent rainbows and cuttbows from coming in from

upstream and also to prevent the 5,000 we transplanted from going up or 
down stream.   Our efforts were all in vain, though for in the summer of

2003 a large forest fire literally sucked the water out of the Lower, 
Middle and Upper Ponil, killing all but very few of the fish.   And, our

efforts to save a breeding population of Rio Grande Cutthroats was for 
naught.  We'll do it again someday.  However, a year after the 
re-location we did a survey and found that approximately 95 % of the 
transplanted Cutts lived through the first year.

JIMMY  D

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>Steve,
>  I agree that it is not to be used unless NEEDED to be used.  I'd much

>rather use the good ol' fashioned "look and see" method.  However, when
you
are tagging the fish for release back into the water, or to weigh them
and
record data on them and such, (again, my humble but overstated opinion)
electrofishing is the way to go.
>  As for the high mortality rate, I've not found rates that high - but
that
is because we used the lowest setting possible and "pulsed" the current
for
a second, then saw what the group could net, and repeated.  
>  If just counting, I agree with you that it's not waranted.  It's
kinda
hard to get a fish to sit still while you go over and tag it, though <G>
If
only fishing were so easy... but that'd take the fun of the challenge
from
it.
>
>In any case, I meant no offense, and hope it wasn't received that way. 
>Tight wraps, Pete
>
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