dubbing with deer hairAustin,
I tried the rope-dub with elk hair just a minute ago, with very good
results.
I took a hank and chopped it into 1/4" fragments.  Deer should work just the
same.

1st, I just tried dry rope-dubbing a pinch the fragments.  It worked, but
not easily.  There was a lot of fall-out off the rope before it spun tight.
I did get a fly with a segmented look and little tips coming out all over
the place.  I would need a catch-basket to catch the fragments.  I could use
wax to hold it together, but that  makes the fly tougher to sink.  A
disolvable waxy substance would work, but the hairs would stick to your
fingers when trying to rope it up.

Next I picked up the clippings that fell at the base of the vise, along with
some miniscule other material fragments- dubbing, hackle fibers, and a tiny
bit of awesome hair.  I pinched up a bunch, blended just a bit, anchored it,
and spun out a very nice, bushy deer-hair rope with a tinge of sparkle in
it.  Very little hair fell out of the teardrop.  The wrapped fly had no
segments, but was bushy all the way with a few sparkles to boot.  Looked
like a caddis case of tiny twigs.

Next, I chopped up another hank into even smaller segments and
fingered-blended them with a tiny bit of dry fly dubbing (although any fine
downy dubbing should work).  This yeilded a tighter rope and a cleaner
profile on the body, yet still pretty bushy.  I think brushing or picking it
out before wrapping would give the same results as method 2 above.  Using
even less dubbing would also work, although I used very little.  This would
be my pick for lots of identical flies, as it is very fast, easy, and
repeatable.

For a wet fly, I would use wire for the tying thread, giving it weight and
durability.  Tie in a tiny green ultra-chennille head (burned black on the
tip)  peeking out and you'll have a great cased peeking-caddis.

Hope this helps.  If you want me to photo my experiments, I'll just add them
to the rope-dub page on the VFB site, and post the url.

DonO

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Harvey, Austin
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 9:01 AM
Subject: [VFB] dubbing with deer hair


Has anyone ever dubbed with deer hair?  I found a couple of flies I want to
do for the life cycle swap and they have deer hair dubbed bodies.  Anything
would be appreciated.
Austin Harvey


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