Now you're on to it.  But you're still asking the question, not answering
it.

DonO

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "KEITH PASSANT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Re: presentation vs pattern- the great debate rages on...


> Further to my last silly response there can ONLY be one answer to the
> pattern v presentation question. Its an answer we will never have though.
> Why? Well only the fish can tell us and I dont speaka di lingo del trutta.
> Each occassion has its requirements for either pattern or presentation
> though right? If the trout dont want a size 10 Wulff but will take a 14
> fished exactly the same its pattern.
> If they dont take the 10 OR the 14 sitting on the top but do take it sunk
> its both.
> If they wont take either of the flies fished upstream but take them when
> they go downstream its presentation.
> OR is it?????
> KP
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "DonO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 11:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [VFB] Re: presentation vs pattern- the great debate rages
on...
>
>
> > True, Keith, true- patterns vs variations of patterns.  But that's
another
> > thread.
> >
> > But the debait at the moment is which is more effective?  Pattern or
> > presentation?
> > What is catching the fish?  The fly or the way the fly is fished?
> >
> > Is the same variation to all patterns really only a presentation
technique
> > for the original pattern?  Is sliding a gold bead down the leader to the
> > fly
> > any different than putting the bead on the hook, if the pattern is no
> > different whatsoever?
> >
> > If the Royal Wulff won't catch fish if it drowns or has drag, but works
> > better than anything else if fished properly, is it pattern or
> > presentation?
> >
> > Fine-tuning the discussion...
> >
> > DonO
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "KEITH PASSANT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 1:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: [VFB] Re: presentation vs pattern- the great debate rages
> > on...
> >
> >
> >> So heres the flame to make sure it burns.....
> >>
> >> Take an old pattern. It was the Sawyers Killer Bug that started all
this
> >> after all.
> >
> >
>


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