Jerry: I'm sorry, but you are taking Jimi's comments OUT of the context he
posted them in.. There are environmentalist (I ARE one), and there are
waccos that would MURDER a human to save a plant, or an animal..... Jimi was
just putting things in the order in which God created them.. You ar eright..
it would be a SORRY fisherman, who would not want to take care and be
worried about the environment.... But to murder HUMANS (as Green Peace and
others have) to protect a FISH.... There are Legal ways to do what these
groups want/need to do, and MOST of these groups are greta groups.. But you
have bad apples in all groups.. I get sooooooooooooo mad, when i go to my
local Honey Hole to fish and other Fishermen have left trach, beer cans and
bottles, Plastic containers that worms and liver came in etc.... THEYT make
ALL fishermen look bad in the eyes of a lot of ppl.... But, like te ones
that Jimi was referring, They ar ethe minority... I don't want to "speak" fo
rJimi or put words in his mouth, but I took his post 180 degrees different
from you..... I hope you'll re read his post and see what he was REALLY
saying.... Chuck

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jerry goldsmith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 11:00 AM
Subject: RE: [VFB] Greenie Salution and a Tribute to Jimmy D.


SECOND REPLY-

I don't rant often, but that death to "Environmentalists"
post really set me off.

The entire Southeast Saltwater Fishery is largely dependent on
"Environmentalists".  The redfish population had been decimated.
Through efforts of the CCA it has been restored any revitalized.

In Florida, the gill net ban is "an "Environmentalist" project
and has made our fishery one of the best in the nation.

The striper fishery in the northeast had also been decimated.
"Environmentalists" were largely responsible for the legislation that
rstored this fishery.  In fact, the last several years have been the
absolute seasons on record.

I would be hard pressed to name any freshwater river in the East
that is near a population center that has not benefited greatly from
the actions of "Trout Unlimited", "Sierra Club" , the audodon society",
Clean water Action Committee, "River Keepers" etc.  In fact, the Clean Water
Action Committee, one of the oldest and most effective organizations on the
country, started as the Clean Water Coalition of Sport Fisherman.  It is not
a non profit because its sole purpose is to work with local and state
governing bodies to ensure a clean water supply.

I would love to know how many people on this list fish in waters that have
not been improved and effected by some environmental effort.

How is it possible to be a fisherman and not be an "Environmentalist".
When you fish aren't you careful to leave nothing but footprints. Don't you
go out of your way to clean up your mess and ANY OTHER that you find on the
water or on the path.  I personally always have a baggie in my pack or Yak
for just that purpose.

Jimi-  I am extraordinarily proud that I am an "Environmentalist".  That I
care deeply about the health of the planet and our country.  I have
diligently taught my children to have the utmost respect for the
Environment. I spent years in Scouting and Camping teaching others the same
need for that respect.  The "Creator" is counting on me to be a good
steward.

When you  deep six me in shark infested waters, at least have the decency to
do so in a paddle powered craft made only of wood. You must lash us together
with natural fibre rope.  And don't you dare use anything other than rocks
to weight us down If you use a fossil fuel powered vessel composed of fiber
glass or any chemical compound based material, you either have jump
overboard with me or join the "Hypocrites" club.


JG

Jerry Goldsmith
Altamonte Springs, Fl
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Desert Eagle
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 2:15 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [VFB] Greenie Salution and a Tribute to Jimmy D.
>
> "environmentalist" are a full 180ยบ out from the norm and
> worship the creation rather than the "Creator".
>
> I forgot to add, "Environmentalist" are the truest form of "Hypocrisy".
> They
> demand that the animals and fish have rights and feelings and that "Man"
> is
> destroying or hurting them. At the same time, they fly on jets across the
> country, drive SUV's, work in high rise office buildings using tones of
> electricity, burn down housing projects and attack licensed hunters and
> fisherman, all the while using massive amounts of fossil fuels, ( gas,
> plastics etc.), and claim they are saving the world.
>
> My point, gather them all up and put them in the desert with "NOTHING" and
> see how long they survive. Personally, I would not even waste the time
> making an artificial reef out of the whole bunch in shark infested waters.
> Jimi
>
>
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