Paul,
Hans got me to doing that some years ago, I don't do it exactly the same but close enough. Tying in the hackle before doing the body makes for a nice neat tie off at the hook eye. This would be for collar hackles. Hans and I still go round and round on palmered hackles. LOL. I will add this, find the "sweet" part of the hackle before tying it in. I posted about finding the "sweet" part of the hackle some days ago.
Tony

Paul Marriner wrote:

Another technique that I picked up from Hans W is to tie in the hackle on
top of the hook, dull side up, pointing forward over the eye. The most
forward thread wrap is where you want the hackle to stop behind the eye. Tie
the fly but finish with the thread at the point where the rearmost hackle
turn will be. Wind the hackle rearward to the thread. Now work the thread
forward through the hackle, simultaneously tying it down and strengthening.
Now at the front you have a clean area to finish a small head, no stray
barbs at all.
cheers,
Paul

Paul Marriner
Outdoor Writing & Photography. Owner: Gale's End Press. Member: OWAA & OWC.
Author of Stillwater Fly Fishing: Tools & Tactics, How to Choose & Use
Fly-tying Thread, Modern Atlantic Salmon Flies, Miramichi River Journal,
Ausable River Journal, and Atlantic Salmon.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Spezio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Hackle and thread direction


Here is a trick I use to keep the hackles out of the way. Wrap the
hackle to where you will be tying off. Just before the last wrap, strip
off the barbs and finish with a bare stem wrap. Another trick it to
slide the thread as you finish wrap on the top of the hook eye and under
the hook eye as you wrap. This will have the tread push any stray barbs
back away from the hook eye.
Tony

Chuck wrote:

Tony: Thanks..I didn't think about my tie off  LOL...I willprobablyjust
keepdoing it the way I do
cause The thingthat is giving me problems is with the bigolhackles it was
easy to pullthem backout
of the way todo my whipfinish... Anyway,Hope this email is the right font
etc,cause I'mat my daughters cause
my neighbor was puttin in new fieldlines to his septic tank cut a main
phone line trunk, and cut phone service to the whole neighborhood,and it may
be a day or two before it is fixed,so Ya'll will get a little rest from my
LOUD mouth LOL,No applause LOL, Chuck
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Spezio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Aug 3, 2005 3:44 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VFB] Hackle and thread direction

Chuck,
Do what works for you. I wrap clockwise because I tie off that way too.
I find if I wrap counter clockwise and tie off clockwise the thread
pulls the material the opposite way loosening it at the tie in point.
Tony

Chuck Alexander wrote:



Folks: I finally got me some small hackle, and am having trouble with
it a little... My question is this..I tie right handed,and  Say, on a
woolly bugger, I would wrap the thread clockwise as the hook eye
points towards me in the vise.. Then, I WAS wrapping chenille and
hackle in that SAME direction.. But all night it wanted to come
unraveled.. So, I wound the thread clockwise, and then the chenille
and hackle counterclockwise, so, that when I went to tie it off, the
thread would cross over the hackle and/or chenille and seem to hold
better.. Is there anything Wrong with doing it this way???? My DVD's
and Books show them all doing it the same way I was doing it, in the
same clockwise direction.. Or is this one of those "Whatever works for
you is the right way"???? Thanks in advance, Chuck





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