Chuck: Sometimes those flies that have a lot of wind resistance will twist the line and/or leader when they are being cast. When they hit the water, the line and leader will slowly untwist. This, I think, is what gives them that "squirming" action on the water. What do you think?
Larry Johnson Springville, Utah >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/20/2006 1:00 PM >>> Don: Yeah, that would be the best way to learn, one on one...I hear ya on the red, cause I'll tell ya a story about the other day. My wife and I were out fishing the watershed right down the road... I was catching gills good, as I was using an orange foam body "bug" that has a Mylar "wing" on it's back, and has about 6 white rubber legs. And, they were tearing it up, cause i don't know if this is natural or if I was doing something right, or wrong LOL.. But as My leader/tippet hit the water, it would be twisted a few turns, and that bug would slowly rotate in the water (like it was injured or stuck in the water), and BAM!!!!!!!!!! They would tear it up... My wife was using a different fly.. I can't remember which, but NO fish... Then, I think I got this fly from Rick Zieger.. and it is a small #12 or 14 tied on a scud hook I think.. Has a translucent red bead head, a bright red chenille body, and I think a black hair tail, and as soon as she went to that red fly.. BAM!!!!!!!!!! Got a gill (or at least a hit) almost every cast...(Course i went home that night and tied up a bunch of them LOL..... Cause next trip out, same thing, she used it and tore em up.... And yeah, we are boat fishing and picking them up as close as 6 inches from the bank right now... And, I have always gill fished, but I caught a cpl bass the other day (one was that MONSTER in the pic I sent ya LOL.. Should have had himmounted LOL).. but the other was about a 1 1/2 pounder, and it was such fun to do battle with.. I thought.. "I'm gonna try some bass bugs".... I have also heard that here all my life about the sunny/light color lure or over cast/dark lure/fly.. I have also always fished light colors in clear water, and dark in dark or murky water...( I think that is how it goes... Been so long since I chunked a lure)....And, I think your right about the eyes.. I have been putting at least a gold bead head on almost every fly I tie lately except poppers and foam spiders and beetles etc... They just LOVE those beads.. i don't know if it is the flash, or that they think it has to be alive cause it has an eye....Also, Jerry C was good enough a while back to send me some great Wide gape hooks.. I've just been waiting to find the right fly to tie on them, and this seems to be that fly... These poppers that is....That book I got for My birthday the other day shows ya how to do the mono weed guards, and I will certainly do that too, as where i fish the "Big Uns" are in the thick grass..... and without a weedless, you'll get hung up every time with anything that sinks, which is one reason I changed over to the foam spiders and poppers lately... Thanks, Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: "DonO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] Deer hair poppers-Chuck > Chuck, > Too bad we can't just sit and tie together. If you're going to make > bass-bug poppers, you'll be able to get more detail in than you would with a > bluegill popper. Usually just one or two colors are good with a > 'gillppopper. The rubber legs really get them going. Don't make the tails > too long or they'll just swim around with the tail in their mouths and won't > get hooked when you strike. > > On bass bugs, note the differences in the shapes of the heads. Some are > flat in front, others are flat top-to-bottom. It depends how you want them > to swim and create action as you start, stop, and drag. Some styles are > divers. Some are gurglers. Some just push water to set up a v-wake. Any > of these actions can entice bass at different times. Don't forget to tie > dark ones- black, purple, dark midnight blue, dark olive- these work in very > low-light conditions- as they key in on silouhette against the sky rather > than color. Once the sun comes up- bright colors for a bright day, muted > colors for a cloudy day (kind of a 'rule of thumb' when I grew up, but that > was with lures). > > Experiment with feathers and fur strips for the tails. Watch the action and > see which the fish like better. Careful of the weight of waterlogged bass > bugs. Very hard to cast properly. Fish from a boat towards the shore, > sneaky, keep your casts short and accurate. I like the stiffest flyrod I > can find to set the hook quickly and then drag him out of the brush before > he can foul me up. I'm sure JimmyD can give you a lot more fishing tips > than me, since he lives in bass country and fishes them quite often > (although he is a 'chuck-'n-winder, too). > > I'm a firm believer in a couple of things. The first is 'eyes'. Fish > recognize eyes- that's why so many fish have false eyes. The second is the > color red. Fish see red and connect that to wounds and breeding colors. > > Don't forget your water-proof markers. Marking up white legs with colors > and dark bands makes for buggier looking flies. Marking a red blotch on the > bottom makes the bass think that whatever this is is wounded. > > Since you're going to try your hand at deer-hair bugs, I'll send you some > epoxy eyes and wide-gape hooks, and more rubber legs. Don't worry, I won't > miss them. No bass here in Wyoming. > > Learn how to tie in or glue in weed-guards, too. Most helpful. > > Learn how to tie mice, too. Chris Helms has videos on that too. > > DonO > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 10:47 PM > Subject: Re: [VFB] Deer hair poppers > > > > Jack, Rob... Thanks.. Bookmarked them both.. They look like they would be > > great on Large Mouth Bass here.. Maybe even big gills if I tied them, say > on > > a # 6 or 8.... Thanks, Chuck > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "rob poutre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 9:58 PM > > Subject: Re: [VFB] Deer hair poppers > > > > > > > Chuck~ > > > > > > Kelly Galloup ties a pattern call a Zoo Cougar. Check > > > that one out too. It's KILLER!!! > > > > > > Rob P. > > > > > > --- Jack Lehman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > > > Here's a link for the type of fly I think you're > > > > describing; > > > > http://www.warmwaterflytyer.com/patterns2.asp?page=3 > > > > > > > > See if that don't help. > > > > > > > > Jack > > > > Austin > > > > > > > > Kevin W. Machon wrote: > > > > > > > > > And get the "Brassie" hair packer - recommended by > > > > Mr. Helm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Ed Roden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Reply-To: <[email protected]> > > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > Subject: Re: [VFB] Deer hair poppers > > > > > Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 06:22:13 -0400 > > > > > > > > > > Any of the DVD/videos by Chris Helm (I just > > > > checked and Lines End doesn't > > > > > have them). > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.4/318 - Release Date: 4/18/2006 > > > > >
